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      Rudbeckia
      last edited by

      Thanks for the info, I have done search after search on this forum and other internet sites and I have tried everything. I have not updated the graphics card though, so maybe its that. On a new computer, why would I have to update the graphics card for SU to work?

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        Rudbeckia
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        @pav_3j said:

        @kwistenbiebel said:

        A 9 Mb file shouldn't produce too much of a speed drop. (I sometimes work on SU files +100 Mb)

        my work computer crashes at 8mb without exception.
        i dream of being abot to work on a +100mb model.

        pav

        I guy in my class just got a brand new $3000 mac and he can not run SU smoothly, and he has the required specs the SU gives.

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          chango70
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          My model is 42 MB on very similar spec laptop to yours.

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            chango70
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            I use 8600m GT without too much problem. I have the latest graphics driver. the default graphics driver kept crashing. Anyway it is 175.5 it think and its from http://www.laptopvideo2go.com website. You see the driver is actually for desktop and you need to run a mini-crack to install it on your laptop. There are clear instructions on how to do that on the website. Just follow it you should be fine. btw the latest Graphics card on Macbook Pro is also 8600M GT so you really shouldn't have a problem.

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              Rudbeckia
              last edited by

              @chango70 said:

              My model is 42 MB on very similar spec laptop to yours.

              Do you have problems with 42mb?? How can our computers have the same specs and I have problems with 9mb and you can run 42mb??

              Modelhead: what do you mean by "post" the model and I will get better??

              I understand it takes time to become a SU expert, but the models I am working on are simplistic compared to what I will be working on, I am debating about wether to put anymore time into learning SU, several students in my program are debating the same thing, if I can't learn the program on a laptop I have, I need to do something else, I have never had a problem with Cad on my comptuer. The desktops at school dont run SU smoothly either. I have also heard the Architecture students bitching about SU.

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                Rudbeckia
                last edited by

                Is there a way to put the model on here so someone can take a look at it and tell me if I am crazy?
                I have tried to upload it twice and I guess I am doing something wrong.

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                • Mike LuceyM Offline
                  Mike Lucey
                  last edited by

                  zip it first

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                    Rudbeckia
                    last edited by

                    The model is to big even when zipped, here is a photo of it though.


                    COTA_1_7.25.08.zip

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                      kwistenbiebel
                      last edited by

                      You didn't make a mistake in learning Sketchup. It still is the fastest modeler around.
                      A 9 Mb file shouldn't produce too much of a speed drop. (I sometimes work on SU files +100 Mb)

                      Sketchup does have an issue handling larger polycounts (which needs URGENT adressing by Google !), but I think in your case something else is wrong.

                      When using a new PC it is very important to search for the latest drivers for your graphical card.
                      This can increase performance quite a bit. Best look at the official Nvidia website to download the latest.
                      For some laptop graphical cards you will need to go to an 'unofficial' site to get the latest drivers.
                      http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/ is a good resource for that.

                      If upgrading GPU drivers doesn't help, browse this forum as there are a lot of threads on optimising editing speed.
                      There is currently one active here:
                      http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=11590

                      I hope this helps.

                      Regards,
                      Kwistenbiebel

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                        kwistenbiebel
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                        @rudbeckia said:

                        I guy in my class just got a brand new $3000 mac and he can not run SU smoothly, and he has the required specs the SU gives.

                        I am working on a MacPro octocore as well (Vista).
                        After updating the graph card (I really suggest you start with that) Sketchup runs quite well, except for the typical speed drag every SU user experiences on complex files and which can be a pain.

                        A 9 Mb should not pose a problem on your laptop though, as long as you respect the workarounds to keep the editing speed up.
                        (layering, shadows 'off', textures 'off',using components instead of groups of the same geometry, etc....)

                        The largest file I ever worked on was 128 Mb. I managed editing it as long as I turned all the bells and whistles to 'off'. Since I not ever use straight sketchup output (I always run my model trhough a render engine), I hardly ever put on 'shadows' and I only leave materials 'on' when I am texturing.

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                          Rudbeckia
                          last edited by

                          Why would I need to update the graphics card on a brand new computer? Shouldnt the graphic cards it came with work?

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                            Rudbeckia
                            last edited by

                            @chango70 said:

                            I use 8600m GT without too much problem. I have the latest graphics driver. the default graphics driver kept crashing. Anyway it is 175.5 it think and its from http://www.laptopvideo2go.com website. You see the driver is actually for desktop and you need to run a mini-crack to install it on your laptop. There are clear instructions on how to do that on the website. Just follow it you should be fine. btw the latest Graphics card on Macbook Pro is also 8600M GT so you really shouldn't have a problem.

                            Chango- I can't find the 175.5 driver at that website, do you know where else I might could find it?

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                            • Mike LuceyM Offline
                              Mike Lucey
                              last edited by

                              From what I can see of that model, I don't think it should
                              be any larger than a 2-3Mb!

                              Have you selected Use Hadrware Acceleration?


                              Use Hardware Acceleration.jpg

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                                Rudbeckia
                                last edited by

                                Yes I have done that. What would make the model so much larger than it actually should be?

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                                • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                  Mike Lucey
                                  last edited by

                                  Rudbeckia,

                                  Poor use of components and groups also watch your 'texture' sizes.

                                  Mike

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                                  • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                    Mike Lucey
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                                    .... if you can't figure out what's making the model heavy,
                                    break it up into three or four models and see where the Gbs
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                                      Rudbeckia
                                      last edited by

                                      Thanks for the help everyone, I know whats making this particular model slow, the plants and the building, I guess where my frustration is, is that the overal all model is not large at all, it is a rooftop , I will soon be working on city parks for school, and I am kinda feeling like unless I want to purchase a $4000 computer, SU isnt going to run right.

                                      And another thing, one of my favorite aspects of SU is the "sketchy styles" that you can mix and match, but heaven forbid I use those b/c the whole computer crashes and I have to turn it off.

                                      Thanks for letting me vent 😄

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                                        kwistenbiebel
                                        last edited by

                                        @rudbeckia said:

                                        Why would I need to update the graphics card on a brand new computer? Shouldnt the graphic cards it came with work?

                                        The drivers I meant

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                                          Rudbeckia
                                          last edited by

                                          @kwistenbiebel said:

                                          @rudbeckia said:

                                          Why would I need to update the graphics card on a brand new computer? Shouldnt the graphic cards it came with work?

                                          The drivers I meant

                                          Sorry, I guess I am just a computer idiot, but why would the drivers need to be updated on a brand new computer?

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                                            remus
                                            last edited by

                                            A lot of the time the drivers supplied with the computer are pretty old, i guess the manufacturers just dont update their versions very often.

                                            http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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