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    • S Offline
      Shotster
      last edited by

      @malaise said:

      What kind of software do you use to display this small picture?

      It's actually an embedded Flash animation. You should get a contextual menu when you right click on it. Select "Play" to view the animation.

      -Steve

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        pilou
        last edited by

        @unknownuser said:

        What kind of software do you use to display this small picture?

        and when you right click on the image you can see the name of the prog 😉

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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        • MALAISEM Offline
          MALAISE
          last edited by

          Hello Gents

           The transformation option will appear only if a group or component is selected
          

          whatever the observer view is ON or OFF. I mean you click on group to reach positions ( set or get ..)
          The use of stop animation observer stores the new view after all changes.
          Start animation observer enables the show (scenes 1 then 2 .....)

          It seems to be simple but not so obvious.

          You have to select all the groups or components activated involved in the scene, after any modification of one or more groups, before setting a new position. If you jump this stage you may get strange results.

          I have one question : ( Mainly for the plugin's father 😉 )

          All movements are done within the same time. I mean a long displacement or a
          short rotation require 1 second..( for instance )

          Could it be possible later to modify this "time" parameter ?

          Thanks for attention

          MALAISE 😄 😄

          La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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            morisdov
            last edited by

            Hello Guys,

            1. When rotating an object, Setting the axis so the origin is at the center of rotation - as suggested by DaveR - is probably the eaysiest way to control the "center" of the object you are animating/rotating.
            2. I dont have access to a mac machine so all my ruby programming and tests are done on windows only.
            3. I read some post by RickW that Each scene/page can get its own "transition" time - so i can probably do it - but, we will never compete with true "timeline" based animations like 3DSMax and Maya, you can use few scenes to simulate a single long leg of an animation part.
            4. When an object is selected for "animation" - in "Windows->Preferences->Shortcuts" you may define "Position X" shortcut keys if you want.
            5. I am traying to keep this plugin "simple" by adding only "must" features if we have to, maybe later we will add more "nice to have" settings.

            Keep on the good work, Moris

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            • MALAISEM Offline
              MALAISE
              last edited by

              Hallo Morisdov

              Nice to read you again.
              Hereby I send another file using the plugin you've made.

              Just see how fast is the boat crossing the gate ( what 's the name in English ?)
              ( even if I modify animation setting ) but I will survive 😆
              Thanks you once more time.

              MALAISE 😄


              boat and water gates ?

              La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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                me3mar
                last edited by

                is it possible to render such an animation using proper_animation.rb and vray ?

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                • MALAISEM Offline
                  MALAISE
                  last edited by

                  Hello Guys

                  I see, you've downloaded the file. About Vray, i'm not experienced.
                  Maybe one of us have already opened the way ??

                  MALAISE 👍

                  La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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                    Shotster
                    last edited by

                    I've been trying some paper folding animations using nested components. The animation of a nested component works as expected when in the context of (i.e. editing) the parent component. However, when not in component edit mode, the nested component does not animate properly. It does move - but typically way out of view, off in left field. It appears that when you're editing the parent component, the nested component's motion is relative to its parent, but when not editing the parent component, the motion is relative to something else.

                    Any chance this could be "fixed" so that nested components always move relative to their parent?

                    -Steve

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
                      last edited by

                      Hi Malaise,

                      Could you add one more scene "in between" when moving your ship? (Of course it should be added within the transformation script itself - it wouldn't work "from outside").

                      @__Steve__- I haven't played around with this but what if you set the origin of both your parent and child component to the original world axis? I can imagine it has something to do with active axes somehow.

                      Gai...

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                      • MALAISEM Offline
                        MALAISE
                        last edited by

                        Hi Gaieus

                        Interesting suggestion, let me try.. 👍 ( stepping motorized boat maybe ?)
                        Thanks

                        MALAISE

                        La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
                          last edited by

                          But then also turn off (set to 0) the animation delayin the Model info > Animation settings (there will be a very short delay anyway I'm afraid).

                          Gai...

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                            Shotster
                            last edited by

                            @gaieus said:

                            Steve- I haven't played around with this but what if you set the origin of both your parent and child component to the original world axis?

                            Unless I'm misunderstanding something, I don't see how that will help, as I need the components to rotate about different axes. ❓

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                              roberta
                              last edited by

                              Hello there,

                              I'm using a MAC and downloaded proper-animation.rb but everytime I right klick the component and try to "get position" in order to record it for the animation sketch-up crashes.
                              Is there anything I can do about that?
                              Could anyone help?

                              Thanks Roberta

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                              • MALAISEM Offline
                                MALAISE
                                last edited by

                                Hi Roberta,

                                You 're not the first to encounter such a problem on MAC. It's due to MAC way of
                                managing ruby plugins. Our friend Morisdov is already warned about this. Just have a look in the same folder. N Lindenthal has the same strange behaviour.

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                                MALAISE 😉

                                La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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                                  morisdov
                                  last edited by

                                  Robert i emailed you PM with the older version of the plugin.
                                  See if it does not crush on a MAC.

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                                    morisdov
                                    last edited by

                                    @n lindenthal said:

                                    My Mac has proper animation with proper_animation, if I drag the folder »extensionmanager« out of Tools folder. Then the right mouse click menue on marked objets has the item »Transformation«.
                                    Now the question would be, whether this same folder »extentionmanager« also disturbs the context menue of SketchUp on Windows PC.

                                    I can not find a comparable folder on my Windows machine.
                                    My Plugin itself is properly wrapped in a module and is not using any global variables, so there should be no collision with other plugins.
                                    Can you zip and email me the contents of that folder ?
                                    See if its removal has no other negative consequenses.

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                                      tomasz
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi Malaise,

                                      I have rendered your robot. It is a VERY quick an dirty test.
                                      Will need more time to fix few things in gui 😄

                                      p.s. I couldn't attach avi directly


                                      KT render @ low quality - ca. 3 frames per minute

                                      Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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                                        miikka1978
                                        last edited by

                                        Tomasz and morisdov,
                                        Looks great! Finally we will be able to render simple Sketchup animations with moving objects in Kerkythea. At least I assume that Tomasz's animation was rendered in Kerkythea.

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                                          N Lindenthal
                                          last edited by

                                          Mac OS X 10.4.10, SketchUp 6 (6.4.120)

                                          @malaise said:

                                          …
                                          N Lindenthal has the same strange behaviour. …

                                          My Mac has proper animation with proper_animation, if I drag the folder »extensionmanager« out of Tools folder. Then the right mouse click menue on marked objets has the item »Transformation«.

                                          Now the question would be, whether this same folder »extensionmanager« also disturbs the context menue of SketchUp on Windows PC.

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                                          • MALAISEM Offline
                                            MALAISE
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi Animation's Fellows !

                                            I'm still using proper_animation, and drawing quite more complex models used for
                                            technical and education purpose. It's one of the easiest way to give explanation
                                            about repeating séquences done by machines

                                            Only one question : Has someone made what I name a "knee" ?
                                            A component is rotating along its axe , a second one
                                            may turn around an reference attached to the first component.
                                            ( think to a leg with its knee )
                                            I can't reach a stable axe for the 2nd group.

                                            Thank for any remarks.

                                            MALAISE

                                            La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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