Home Generator+ 100kW 180A@ 400V - Off the Grid
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solo, its not my topic by any means! i just thought it general good manners to try and stick to the topic originally proposed.
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Did I make a typo Professor Plumb? Tsunami T S U N A M I Tsunami.
If I used the word Tsunami as metaphor for a force greater that humanity can control I apologize for intending my statement to be literally taken. In your case I will slow down. Substitute tsunami for an Earth orbit Commit. Would you still be in favor of an early warning system? What would you accomplish with that? Bedlam, Panic, hysteria. Interesting but doubtful. Now we are really off topic. But to tie it all together in my way of understanding.
All the buzz words, data and infrastructure are just a human solution. What gives you so much hope in humanity on such a grand scale. Our accomplishments? Compare those with others and what you will see is that all of our accomplishments are nothing compareitvly speaking In this particular case this particular event (dependance on fossil fuel) I feel as in all cases will sort its self out in her own way. Interaction from humans just makes the problem worse. By prolonging it. What is is and what will be, can be seen if you just open your eyes and listen to silence. All of your "Great minds" are nursery rhymes. By the way could you name one in our time? A great mind. You want a prediction? I bet you quickly can't. I hope for your case I am wrong.
But I can.
Goon
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Back to topic, sorry for getting into a dead ended rant (as a debate is not possible with some folk).
This topic reminds me of a thread Mike Lucey started the other day, regarding 'Surge technology', I did a quick search and found this:
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@unknownuser said:
Can you name for me a great mind of today
@solo said:
Mike Lucey,
Mayor Mike
Right on topic with his interests
Nice pullGOD
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@frederik said:
:roll:
I never learn to understand why some people deliberately seek a confrontation...
:From a boxers point of view Getting hit is a part of the appeal. From a writers point of view there is a story in all of us. From a hunters point of view the thrill is the chase. In a Punk rock point of view my idea of a perfect night is ruining someone else's In your point of view never understanding anything is never my problem just yours.
And to Tomasz This is a bar right? Who made you the thought police? Why don't you start a tread Tomasz vs GoD that would be fine with me. Solo would not attend as he has his lofty Moderators standards to adhere to. Frederic will read it but offer nothing. You would loose. Think before you speak.
GoD
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Ok. Stop hijacking this thread. Open your own called 'Solo vs Goon'.
You can start a pool as well.
JAPAN
Practical use of permanent\electro-magnetic motor in a motorbike. They don't have fossil fuels so they are desperately looking for alternatives.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUXhJZZRUIg
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This topic is about zero point energy, pretty much getting more out than what's put in right?
We do have that technology today if you think about it, in California for instance there are many home owners that have embraced solar technology by riddling their roofs and lawns with solar panels and achieving such quantities of power that they are even supplying back to the grid and getting energy credits (power company owes them)
As technology advances so will solar panels, which in turn will be even more productive, more people will be turning to this solution hence bringing down the prices based on quantity, which will lead to even greater technology as more manufacturers get into this new booming sector which will lead to competition and we all win.The sun has been there from day one, exalted by primitive cultures as a God (some still today) and maybe just maybe it really is answer which has been overlooked as we concentrate on more complicated solutions.
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Solar as is most sustainable alternate means of construction is not an option for most who improve properties. Cost is a factor as is rely-ability and durability. Not only Solar but most building products that are truly rated widely accepted and certified are cost prohibitive. for many reasons. Remember those that can afford it are also interested in the notion of "Value added"
Once the priority must be to become self sufficient is when we will see a competitive market, affordable expert service, quality improves only with widespread acceptance. Not there yet but closer now than a year ago. But to truly be "Off the Grid" Battery backup is still a requirement with Solar that is if you need power in darkness and weather. ecologically speaking batteries are not good. As for the Zero point topic Data can be misleading. If you factor the sum total of its parts vs the projected service life what most fail to acknowledge is the agrigate total after the manufacturing process in some cases is way worse than the supposed gains.
Solar also has other drawbacks. Maintaining, cleaning and servicing parts that are in extreme heat and sunshine is problematic. UV will destroy in short order everything. Most who I know who have expierience with solar their biggest delight is watching the meter spin in reverse on the sunny days when the house is at rest. Most also are proud to say that they have solar. Most are all are dependent on the grid more than the panels given the fact that most are away at day and home at night. Every bit helps I suppose? For those out there who are truly off the grid and self sufficient. What you will find in most cases where energy is required to exist is that they have Diesel generators, lead Batteries, and toxins everywhere. Off the grid mostly means the absence of one.
GoD
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OT: Looks like Thinkpath has had a rough time on the market. Down to a penny a share now.
Modelhead I hope your life-savings weren't invested in it.
--- Ross
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@goon of doom said:
ecologically speaking batteries are not good. As for the Zero point topic Data can be misleading. If you factor the sum total of its parts vs the projected service life what most fail to acknowledge is the agrigate total after the manufacturing process in some cases is way worse than the supposed gains.
I will explain how I understand principles of SURGE TECHNOLOGY motor. All parts are assembled this way that they minimise friction due to usage of a magnetic field to separate moving parts. The only force required to run this motor forever (ok, say 25+ years
) is the force to spin the rotor fast enough to allow magnetic field keeping it spinning for a loooong period. Please note there is NO friction between parts. Everyone knows it well that you require very little power to keep something in motion.Goon, you have mentioned batteries. They are not necessary. Please check video USA2. The inventor is spinning it just with his finger, then he uses the additional motor powered by low voltage battery to accelerate it to a required speed. It can be accelerated using same mechanism say like in a bicycle. It doesn't matter - even if electricity is required it can come from renewable source. ONCE ENGINE IS SPINNING IT WILL RUN FOR A LOOONG TIME. I am amazed - it would mean that the car Troy Reed is running on this motor can travel continuously along whole USA without charging!!!
I can still hardly believe it is a truth, but there are too many samples of similar devices. I probably build my own one - so simple as in USA sample, just to verify it (I like physics
).Tomasz
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EDITED: Gathered all important samples together + one above.
USA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qaCk0jK--8sUSA - 2nd example
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jt5z8L4LBJEHungary\Canada
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vDeXTXYFKAYThis is also worth seeing.
FAST ELECTRIC HEATER - Efficency = 170% ??!!
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@unknownuser said:
Please note there is NO friction between parts.
unless it is in a vacuum it is impossible to have a system with no friction, there is always some... however minimal.
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You are right. Friction is minimised. Like in a levitron:
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It is definitely better to buy one off then to let him die in 'mysterious circumstances'.
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@unknownuser said:
A side matter, but do you have any idea how many people would lose their jobs if this were to be mass produced? We're talking about the people on the oil platforms, pump station personnel, etc. It would mean a total nightmare for the economy. And this comes from a guy (me) that would like to see this invention be used as well. But the fact remains, many will lose their jobs. And who wants that?
I imagine that the amout of oil used for fuel is quite a small proportion of total use in manufacturing/Chemical plants, lubricants, plastics and the like - there will always be a demand for oil.
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I closely watch samples of companies and individuals who develop technologies based on permanent magnets.
There are too many of them claiming same achievement.This is a company which wanted to develop a system helping to power CCTV cameras and they have come to same scientifically unexplained results.
They have challenged scientist to test the company's findings.
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@gaganraj said:
@unknownuser said:
Please note there is NO friction between parts.
unless it is in a vacuum it is impossible to have a system with no friction, there is always some... however minimal.
Not even then. If you use 'magnetic bearings' then there will be magnetic drag. In the ultimate there will be gravitic frame dragging! It's really simple - you can't extract work from a system for long without something replenishing it. If you take any of these perpetual motion machines and extract any energy at all from them they will run down and stop.
And that by the way includes tidal power since it requires energy that is extracted from the earth/moon system. So far that energy extraction has increased the size of the moon's orbit very dramatically (it's currently figured at about 3.8 cm a year) and slowed the Earth's rotation (by about 20uSec/year). Humans building tidal barrages will accelerate that process.
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