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    • P Offline
      PRSS
      last edited by

      Hello everybody!!

      This has reference to the post made by Daniel S in the thread "SketchyFFD".
      This is about making a twist with the script.

      http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=6029&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=30

      A movie file is also attached in that to perform a Twist. I have been desperately attempting
      to do this in vain for the last two days! The only deformation I get is a sharp bend with a fold.
      It is not a smooth twist. I am not able to attach an image as I do not have any website to host
      my files.

      I am very interested in doing that twist. Please help me solve this.

      Thanks in advance
      PRSS

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      • R Offline
        remus
        last edited by

        It sounds as if your model is not subdivided enough. FFD can only deform the geometry that already exists within your model so if you try and deform a square it will look crap because youll only get a slightly weird looking square out.

        Non subdivided square:
        twist 1.jpg

        Subdivided square:
        twist 2.jpg

        A good ruby to help you subdivide your shapes is the zorro script, or if you have it the subd and smooth script. There is also some limited subdivision built in to the most recent FFD script.

        http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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        • P Offline
          PRSS
          last edited by

          Thank you remus,

          Yes, it now worked with the subdivision of
          the surfaces also. But the "Twist" movie clip shows no subdivision
          of surfaces but only the FFD nodes. I am wondering whether Daniel S
          had any other method of doing this. Or was he trying to explain
          something else?

          Thank you once again
          With best regards
          PRSS

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          • GaieusG Offline
            Gaieus
            last edited by

            Hi PRSS,

            Maybe those lines were softened already and hidden geometry turned off?
            (Just thinking loudly - I haven't even downloaded the script yet) 😳

            Gai...

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            • B Offline
              BorgMan
              last edited by

              Hmm... Can someone explain to me how subd'ing works? When I'm looking at that square my mind can't understand how the second shape is formed using subd'ing...

              More varied than the Borg, more powerful than the living dead, and better shots than Imperial Stormtroopers.

              You've gotta love Slivers.

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              • R Offline
                remus
                last edited by

                I think your thinking of subdividing and smoothing, all we're talking about here is subdividing it. Al your really doing is adding lots of extra edges/faces to the model so FFD has more to work with.

                http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                • D Offline
                  Daniel S
                  last edited by

                  Hi PRSS

                  You need to subdivide before using FFD. FFD can subdivide all for you: you have to choose NxN FFD and in Subdivide item choose "true". My video don´t show the subdivisions because I soften edges first.

                  Here i attach another video to show you all this.

                  Hope that helps,
                  Daniel S


                  twist video .wmv with soften edges

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                  • P Offline
                    PRSS
                    last edited by

                    Thank you Daniel S for your kindness in doing another
                    movie to explain it. Many thanks to others also.

                    So many replies in a short time! Now I have it solved.
                    It is working fine.

                    Script is a great script - thanks to CPhillips.

                    With best regards
                    PRSS

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                    • D Offline
                      dylan
                      last edited by

                      Nice explanation and video Daniel 👍

                      http://dmdarchitecture.co.uk/

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                      • david_hD Offline
                        david_h
                        last edited by

                        So is there an updated version to the FFD ruby, cuz I don't get the Subdivide option on my screen menu.

                        😞

                        If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                          remus
                          last edited by

                          The subdivide option should appear under right click->ffd->NxN.

                          If its not there you probably dont have the latest version.

                          http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                          • david_hD Offline
                            david_h
                            last edited by

                            I guess I don't. Any link to it? thanks. There are so mnay versions floating around. I have tried 3 of them, and each do something different.

                            D

                            Never mind. . . .I think I got it now. DUH!!!

                            If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                            • L Offline
                              lapx
                              last edited by

                              You mean like this?

                              1. By starting with a square twist top via rotate.
                              2. Erase surfaces.
                              3. Make mesh with soapbubble of 4 sides.
                              4. Copy square on top of itself.

                              torso2 (Medium).jpg

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                                dylan
                                last edited by

                                @unknownuser said:

                                So is there an updated version to the FFD ruby, cuz I don't get the Subdivide option on my screen menu.😞

                                I believe it needs to be grouped to get the option

                                http://dmdarchitecture.co.uk/

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                                  PRSS
                                  last edited by

                                  Lapx, that is great. That is what I want.
                                  By the way I just bought today the subdivide & smooth
                                  script. Haven't had the time to experiment with it yet.

                                  With best regards
                                  PRSS

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