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    • K Offline
      kwistenbiebel
      last edited by

      My God, Is that true? Only 8GB supported in the other versions?
      Thank god I chose Business as I already have 8GB installed and hope to increase the RAM even more in the future when it would be needed...

      (By the way, don't buy Mac RAM...there are other brands 3 times cheaper with the exact same features.)

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      • StinkieS Offline
        Stinkie
        last edited by

        Really? Which ones?

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        • StinkieS Offline
          Stinkie
          last edited by

          I must correct myself: Home Basic 64 supports 8 gb, Home Premium supports 16 gb, and Ultimate, Business and Enterprise support + 128 gb.

          So Home Premium 64 might be enough for me.

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            remus
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            But how will you ever be able to do 50,000x50,000 renders with only 16gb of ram? You wont stand a chance stinkie, upfrade, you know you want to 😄

            http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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              Stinkie
              last edited by

              Well, Remus, I went shopping, and finally decided upon getting Ultimate, so ... 💚
              Anyway, I think 8 gb will last me a while.

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              • StinkieS Offline
                Stinkie
                last edited by

                Mornin' SU folk!

                I tried to install Vista Ultimate 64 bit on my Mac Pro last night, but: no dice. The 32 bit version (which I tried also) installed just fine, but the 64 one ... This is what happened: I started up the Bootcamp Assistant and made me a nice Windows partition. When that was done, the computer rebooted to start the actual installation process (the Vista cd-rom was already in the drive, of course). When it did, it showed me a nice black sceen, with nice white letters on it:

                Select CD-ROM Boot Type

                Now, it seems obvious I have to make a choice at this time: 1 or 2. Apart from the fact I have no clue what either of these choices are, I cannot type squat. The computer doesn't respond to the keyboard. 👊

                Any thoughts? Aphorisms? Poems?

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                  remus
                  last edited by

                  Ive got to go and et ready for my first exam, might be able to give you a hand when i get back though. A good starting point would be to read this: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=468385

                  http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                  • StinkieS Offline
                    Stinkie
                    last edited by

                    Thanks for the link. I got all day at the office to dredge trough Mac forums to find a solution for this, erm, interesting problem. 😉

                    Kind of reminds me of the days I enjoyed myself with installing obscure Linux distributions on an old Pentium 3. 💚

                    Ah, the panic, the stress! 😄

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                      remus
                      last edited by

                      Lol, have you downloaded the latest version of boot camp? (if you can download it, ive never had to try myself)

                      http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                      • StinkieS Offline
                        Stinkie
                        last edited by

                        I used the version that came with my Leopard install disc. I did get this, though: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/application_updates/bootcampupdate21forwindowsvista64.html

                        Strangely, that's an exe file.

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                          remus
                          last edited by

                          Do .exe not run on macs then? I havent used a mac for a while and i cant remeber what extension their executables have...

                          http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                            Stinkie
                            last edited by

                            AFAIK, they don't run, no. Now, I'm not worried. A quick Google search taught there's plenty of people out there who experienced the same issue. There's bound to be a solution.

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                            • StinkieS Offline
                              Stinkie
                              last edited by

                              Some poking around turned up this:

                              "1. Insert Windows Install disc into DVD drive
                              2. Using the build mode of imburn, go to the advanced tab, then bootable disc and then select your DVD drive in the extract boot image drop down list. Go ahead and extract the boot image and store it somewhere on your hard drive
                              3. Go to the information tab and add your DVD drive as the source file
                              4. Options tab, check that file system is ISO9660 + IDF and UDF revision is 1.02 (should be anyway by default)
                              5. Go to Advanced tab, sub tab Restrictions and further sub tab ISO9660: Set Folder / File length to Level X and tick the four check boxes at the bottom (allow more than 8 directory levels, Allow more than 255 characters in path, Allow files without Extensions, Don’t Add ‘;1’ Version number to Files. (Note it’s this bit that actually solves the problem the rest is effectively just duplicating the existing disc)
                              6. Move to the bootable disc tab: Click the tick box to make the image bootable, emulation type to “none (custom)” and the browse and select the boot image you previously extracted from the windows disc. Finally set Sectors to load to 4.
                              7. Click the big create iso button to create the bootable iso.
                              8. And use that iso to burn a new install disc.

                              And this disc works!"

                              Found here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=467704

                              Didn't try this yet, as I am at the office.

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                              • K Offline
                                kwistenbiebel
                                last edited by

                                Wow Stinkie...
                                I didn't know installing it was such a hassle.
                                If I had known...
                                Mine came istalled by the Mac Shop where I bought the thing so all was done for me...

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                                  Stinkie
                                  last edited by

                                  Well, as long as it works, I'm not complaining. We'll see. 😄

                                  Also found this. Pretty cheap RAM: http://nl.backoffice.be/shop/details.asp?partid=KTA%2DMP800K2%2F4G

                                  I might get me 4 kits (=16gb à € 719,72). Biiiiiiiig renders. 💚

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                                    ScottPara
                                    last edited by

                                    The biggest part of running 64bit is making sure you have all the supporting drivers for any hardware you have or plan to purchase. As it was said though 32bit will soon be a thing of the past and any issues people are currently experiencing will soon go away and or be fixed as the masses got to 64bit.

                                    Scott

                                    Love the fact that some HATE my avatar.....

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                                      Stinkie
                                      last edited by

                                      To anyone wrestling with the same problem: the method quoted above works. I've just installed Vista Ultimate 64 bit with no problems at all. (No driver related problems so far - but we'll see how that developes.) Tomorrow, I'm gonna get me 16 gb of RAM, and install Indigo and Podium. Yeah! 😍

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                                        Stinkie
                                        last edited by

                                        Okay ... While Ultimate installed okay, problems have arisen. Not much of a surprise - problems tend to do that. Call me cynical. 😆

                                        Stuff seems to work very slowly. Opening SU takes forever. Opening, say, the SkIndigo render settings thingy in SU does too - SU even becomes comatose for a couple of minutes.

                                        What is this - a drivers related issue? Mind you, I've not installed anything else but Vista, SU and Indigo. What piece, if any, of vital, yes magical software am I missing?

                                        Yup, I really do know squat. 🎉

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                                          kwistenbiebel
                                          last edited by

                                          Have you updated the latest of the latest Geforce drivers?
                                          That did the trick for me.
                                          A slow Sketchup (I mean slower than the slow one we are used to 😄) is very often ill because of GPU drivers not working well together with the software.

                                          By the way, once you got the 64 bit windows thingie running without hickups, you'll be surprised how smooth the performance of the 64 bit version of Indigo is.... It will love your shiny 8 cores 😄

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                                            Stinkie
                                            last edited by

                                            Hmm ... "videokaartdrivers", you mean? (I know nada about hardware. "Wow! That's called a plow, you say?") Well, if so, I'm in the process of installing the latest for the, erm, GPU I got. I was guessing that was the problem.

                                            I did notice the 64 bit version of Indigo runs real smooth - I loaded a couple of Ono's test files. Pretty impressive.

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