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    • M Offline
      mateo soletic
      last edited by

      A month or so ago Me and My wife were invited aboard MSC Poesia
      during its first visit to my town .. It’s their newes ship and it great.
      Have a look here.

      http://www.msckrstarenja.com/flotta/multimedia_ship/infoship.asp?ship_id=261
      and the company:
      http://www.msccruises.com/cruises.asp

      I don’t know if this would be the greatest choice for such a meeting .
      Too much going on over there , sightseeings other events but if all
      majority are for it why not.
      I also have good connections there.

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      • Mike LuceyM Offline
        Mike Lucey
        last edited by

        I notice that the Costa Concordia have a week's Med Cruise
        for under $500 €322 £253

        It seems that these ships do not have broadband connection
        but again is this really essential? I only need to check
        my emails once a day and answer same while travelling. I
        prefer to spend as much time with people not computers. I
        don't need to do any up / downloads. More importantly would
        be a good sized meeting room for presentations / discussions
        and these ships have these facilities plus dozens of Bars 👍

        A thought has just popped into my head about he various excursions
        that would be involved. These are mostly to historic areas /
        places that may not have yet been Skoogled! Could this be an
        opportunity for the SUC Cruisers to do some useful work that
        could be uploaded to Google Earth? And maybe even get some form
        of subsidy from Google for this professional work, just a thought
        and one that I will investigate further.

        We would have the expertise 'on-board' (pun intended 😉 ) headed
        up by our esteemed Csaba 😄 If successful this could be an annual
        event and we could cover all the Med and its historic treasures 😆


        Under $500 for 7 days.jpg

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        • K Offline
          kwistenbiebel
          last edited by

          I wanted to sit this thread out until a place was chosen, so I can see if it fits the time schedule and the budget.

          But I just have to react on this:
          A cruise? Isn't that expensive?

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          • soloS Offline
            solo
            last edited by

            Funny enough Chris they really are not expensive, I have been on a few (Mostly Caribbean) 4 day cruises that were less expensive than going to a hotel by the beach for the same amount of time.

            http://www.solos-art.com

            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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            • Mike LuceyM Offline
              Mike Lucey
              last edited by

              I don't think €322 (sharing) for 7 nights full board is
              expensive. There are some quite good deals to be had
              and I imagine better if there are some numbers involved.

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              • K Offline
                kwistenbiebel
                last edited by

                Oh...I didn't know that.
                I always get the mental image of Hercule Poirot on a luxury ship solving a murder, when I think about cruises.

                But cheaper than a hotel room hey? Now the idea starts to grow on me 😉

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                • M Offline
                  mateo soletic
                  last edited by

                  First I Would like to say that it is a good thing that we have
                  seriously started discussing the possible base camp Europe.

                  Since my town is a home port to many of these Cruise ships
                  I have some inside information that I think is necessary to
                  shed some light on this topic .

                  First:

                  @unknownuser said:

                  Oh...I didn't know that.
                  I always get the mental image of Hercule Poirot on a luxury
                  ship solving a murder, when I think about cruises.

                  The cruise holiday has only recently become available to masses.
                  The last couple of Years have seen the cruise industry expand
                  greatly. It is the most growing tourist industry with the most
                  satisfied percentage of clients.

                  @unknownuser said:

                  I don't think €322 (sharing) for 7 nights full board is
                  expensive.

                  It is not expensive if say a hundred people could get that price.
                  What they usually do is advertise some of the cheapest inside cabins
                  Some of which are limited. The other cabins are much more expensive.

                  @unknownuser said:

                  There are some quite good deals to be had and I imagine better
                  if there are some numbers involved.

                  Another problem might be accommodating larger number of
                  people at short notice. I was told that a six month in advance
                  booking for larger groups is a usual thing. If we are serious on
                  this I think we should start inquiring now because it will take
                  us at least two months to get organised here as to who is going .

                  @unknownuser said:

                  Its an ALL IN PACKAGE i.e. no extras.

                  Another thing to bear in mind is that they don’t allow people to
                  bring alcohol on board. The catch is in the fact that drinks are very
                  expensive on board. This is one of the mayor income to them .
                  The excursions they organise are also expensive. Sometimes up
                  to 100 Euro per person. But one can get around with that.
                  One can organise excursions directly through local agency and
                  save more than 50% .

                  So the mayor problem might be the booze.

                  And for the end :
                  The best informative price I got from a close contact
                  from a competitive company was 550 Euro inside cabin
                  and 650 euro outside cabin. This would be for a group
                  100-150 people around the same time and similar destinations.
                  He also told me that this is the only availability for such
                  a group this Year.

                  Everything else has been booked well in advance.

                  This is the price per person in a double room.
                  Children can go free in a four bed cabin.
                  Another additional expense is the tax of 115
                  euro per person which is not included in the price.

                  The ship is MSC Opera.
                  http://www.cruise-ferry-center.com/hr/default.asp?id=1051

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                  • EddyNLE Offline
                    EddyNL
                    last edited by

                    Hey guys,

                    I'm new here, whats all this talk about Base Camp?
                    Is it like a get-together for SU users?

                    viewtopic.php?f=271&t=11903 Modelling my city for Google Earth!

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                    • M Offline
                      mateo soletic
                      last edited by

                      Right James,
                      I think that all these facts should be put forward and say
                      we come to an average price of say XY Euros per person .
                      for a weeks holiday. The transportation could be then calculated
                      and added individually, You from Ireland, Me from Croatia...
                      to form the final expected expenditure.
                      And then we can ask how many people are going and see what
                      we get.

                      [Concept Illustrations](http://concept-illustrations.com/)

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                      • plot-parisP Offline
                        plot-paris
                        last edited by

                        @mateo soletic said:

                        The best informative price I got from a close contact
                        from a competitive company was 550 Euro inside cabin

                        @mateo soletic said:

                        Another additional expense is the tax of 115
                        euro per person which is not included in the price.

                        so it is 665 Euro...

                        @unknownuser said:

                        And just to add to that list Mateo, some of us would have to fly to the respective country and make our way to the port ..so add cost of flight and transportation.

                        lets asume 100 Euro for travel there and back again.
                        then we are at 765 Euro (and haven't took any excursions or alkohol in account)

                        I am afraid for some (poor students like me for example) this will be quite a lot of money 😕

                        for comparisson: you will get a hotel room (double room) in London - expensive city - for about 300 Euro a week

                        I would like the idea of a whole ship full of SketchUp nerds very much though 😄

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                        • M Offline
                          mateo soletic
                          last edited by

                          @unknownuser said:

                          you will get a hotel room (double room) in London - expensive city - for about 300 Euro a week

                          Yes but here You get five - six to ten courses meals a day. Everyone gain at least 3-4 kilos
                          after they return. Free massages Spa, theatre, cinemas , entertainment of all sorts.
                          But the drinks might be a problem. I think the cheapest bottle of Wine is 20 euros.

                          [Concept Illustrations](http://concept-illustrations.com/)

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                          • plot-parisP Offline
                            plot-paris
                            last edited by

                            @mateo soletic said:

                            Free massages Spa, theatre, cinemas

                            ok. I am in! 😄

                            I am not so sure about gaining weight - half of us will lose 3 kg due to sea-sickness 😉

                            food inclusive is definitely a point...

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                            • S Offline
                              sepo
                              last edited by

                              I think we should stay on firma terra 😉

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                              • L Offline
                                linea
                                last edited by

                                @unknownuser said:

                                lets asume 100 Euro for travel there and back again.
                                then we are at 765 Euro (and haven't took any excursions or alkohol in account)

                                I am afraid for some (poor students like me for example) this will be quite a lot of money

                                for comparisson: you will get a hotel room (double room) in London - expensive city - for about 300 Euro a week

                                I would like the idea of a whole ship full of SketchUp nerds very much though

                                Plot my initial thoughts on the cruise idea were that it will be
                                very expensive. But all things considered it might be one of the cheapest, nicest options.
                                If we stayed in a major city such as London we could easily get budget hotel accomodation but we would have to pay London prices for meals, conference facilities, excursions, etc and also pay for travel to and from these places. Conference facilities aren't in short supply in London but they aren't cheap, getting a venue with individual computers for each participant can cost £200 a day per person.
                                Obviously the further away we go from a major city these sort of facilities are cheaper but we could then find that interesting excursion venues are further away too, so travel time and expense would go up.
                                Alternatively I think Watkins mentioned using a university campus as they will have the conference facilities we need and accomodation stood empty all summer (probably a cheap bar too!). I think that is a really good idea that we could consider but for an all in price in surroundings that would suit everybody I reckon a cruise ship is a very good option.

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                                • plot-parisP Offline
                                  plot-paris
                                  last edited by

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  Alternatively I think Watkins mentioned using a university campus as they will have the conference facilities we need and accomodation stood empty all summer (probably a cheap bar too!).

                                  well, that is a very interesting suggestion. and universities could even support the BaseCamp (by renting the accommodations for a good price).

                                  perhaps we should even set up a competition for universities;
                                  to get the honour of housing the Base Camp Europe 2008! (we should start designing a nice poster (bosting off with all the skills that come together in this forum)... 😎 )

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