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    • soloS Offline
      solo
      last edited by

      Is there a time of the year when it's NOT raining? and maybe the sun makes an appearance?

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      • plot-parisP Offline
        plot-paris
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        SUNSHINE IN LONDON at the moment!
        there is definitely a lot of sunshine here (but a lot of rain too 😉 )

        last month we had a whole week of complete sunshine without a single raindrop.

        it is very unfortunate that weather forecast isn't for the next six months - that would be cool 😎

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        • soloS Offline
          solo
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          Well it is Wimbelton time (the best time for an outdoor event) even though the weather normally does not conform during the finals.

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          • A Offline
            Archi Rag
            last edited by

            I'd second that, im moving up to newcastle to start a placement and stopped off there for a few hours and was pretty impressed by how much it had changed (i hadnt been there for a few years) although newcastle is a favourite for me (in terms of a good looking city)

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            • L Offline
              linea
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              Dylan will probably back me up here: in Yorkshire we laugh at the rain! We have to. Although today it has been sunny. Today I went to Dylan's town of Sheffield for a meeting. I hadn't been there for years and I was amazed by all the fantastic looking new contemporary architecture. I would like to nominate Sheffield as a possible Base Camp venue, as yorkshire is quite a surprising place these days.

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              • Mike LuceyM Offline
                Mike Lucey
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                I can't sleep, still in Mid Atlantic time zone but getting
                closer to Europe.

                I had a long chat with Ross about what he thought might be
                a good location and he suggested a Cruise Ship. At first I
                thought, no way, but the more we discussed it the more it
                made some sense for the following reasons.

                a. Its an ALL IN PACKAGE i.e. no extras.
                b. Spouses, Partners, Girlfriends, Boyfriend could also tag
                along and enjoy the gig. Also the kids!
                c. Most decent Cruise Ships have good facilities for meetings.
                d. If we had a Med cruise it might even be possible to arrange
                a hop on at various ports.
                e. It would be nice to get some of the Google SU Guys ALSO some
                of the Regular SketchUp Members from the USA and others areas
                and as Ross says 'it could be swing-able from a monitory point
                of view when it also combines a nice holiday for all'. BTW Ross
                is Scottish! So, we have to give this serious thought, only kidding
                Ross 😉

                I have been looking up what's available on the Mediterranean and
                see some great cruises there. I have some contacts in the business
                and will (just for the fun of it) check out what kind of a deal
                might be had.

                Mike

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
                  last edited by

                  Mike don't forget that we need a bunch of power computers and broadband internet connection for such an event (though I can imagine some of the more modern ships have these facilities).

                  Gai...

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                  • M Offline
                    mateo soletic
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                    A month or so ago Me and My wife were invited aboard MSC Poesia
                    during its first visit to my town .. It’s their newes ship and it great.
                    Have a look here.

                    http://www.msckrstarenja.com/flotta/multimedia_ship/infoship.asp?ship_id=261
                    and the company:
                    http://www.msccruises.com/cruises.asp

                    I don’t know if this would be the greatest choice for such a meeting .
                    Too much going on over there , sightseeings other events but if all
                    majority are for it why not.
                    I also have good connections there.

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                    • Mike LuceyM Offline
                      Mike Lucey
                      last edited by

                      I notice that the Costa Concordia have a week's Med Cruise
                      for under $500 €322 £253

                      It seems that these ships do not have broadband connection
                      but again is this really essential? I only need to check
                      my emails once a day and answer same while travelling. I
                      prefer to spend as much time with people not computers. I
                      don't need to do any up / downloads. More importantly would
                      be a good sized meeting room for presentations / discussions
                      and these ships have these facilities plus dozens of Bars 👍

                      A thought has just popped into my head about he various excursions
                      that would be involved. These are mostly to historic areas /
                      places that may not have yet been Skoogled! Could this be an
                      opportunity for the SUC Cruisers to do some useful work that
                      could be uploaded to Google Earth? And maybe even get some form
                      of subsidy from Google for this professional work, just a thought
                      and one that I will investigate further.

                      We would have the expertise 'on-board' (pun intended 😉 ) headed
                      up by our esteemed Csaba 😄 If successful this could be an annual
                      event and we could cover all the Med and its historic treasures 😆


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                      • K Offline
                        kwistenbiebel
                        last edited by

                        I wanted to sit this thread out until a place was chosen, so I can see if it fits the time schedule and the budget.

                        But I just have to react on this:
                        A cruise? Isn't that expensive?

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                        • soloS Offline
                          solo
                          last edited by

                          Funny enough Chris they really are not expensive, I have been on a few (Mostly Caribbean) 4 day cruises that were less expensive than going to a hotel by the beach for the same amount of time.

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                          • Mike LuceyM Offline
                            Mike Lucey
                            last edited by

                            I don't think €322 (sharing) for 7 nights full board is
                            expensive. There are some quite good deals to be had
                            and I imagine better if there are some numbers involved.

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                            • K Offline
                              kwistenbiebel
                              last edited by

                              Oh...I didn't know that.
                              I always get the mental image of Hercule Poirot on a luxury ship solving a murder, when I think about cruises.

                              But cheaper than a hotel room hey? Now the idea starts to grow on me 😉

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                              • M Offline
                                mateo soletic
                                last edited by

                                First I Would like to say that it is a good thing that we have
                                seriously started discussing the possible base camp Europe.

                                Since my town is a home port to many of these Cruise ships
                                I have some inside information that I think is necessary to
                                shed some light on this topic .

                                First:

                                @unknownuser said:

                                Oh...I didn't know that.
                                I always get the mental image of Hercule Poirot on a luxury
                                ship solving a murder, when I think about cruises.

                                The cruise holiday has only recently become available to masses.
                                The last couple of Years have seen the cruise industry expand
                                greatly. It is the most growing tourist industry with the most
                                satisfied percentage of clients.

                                @unknownuser said:

                                I don't think €322 (sharing) for 7 nights full board is
                                expensive.

                                It is not expensive if say a hundred people could get that price.
                                What they usually do is advertise some of the cheapest inside cabins
                                Some of which are limited. The other cabins are much more expensive.

                                @unknownuser said:

                                There are some quite good deals to be had and I imagine better
                                if there are some numbers involved.

                                Another problem might be accommodating larger number of
                                people at short notice. I was told that a six month in advance
                                booking for larger groups is a usual thing. If we are serious on
                                this I think we should start inquiring now because it will take
                                us at least two months to get organised here as to who is going .

                                @unknownuser said:

                                Its an ALL IN PACKAGE i.e. no extras.

                                Another thing to bear in mind is that they don’t allow people to
                                bring alcohol on board. The catch is in the fact that drinks are very
                                expensive on board. This is one of the mayor income to them .
                                The excursions they organise are also expensive. Sometimes up
                                to 100 Euro per person. But one can get around with that.
                                One can organise excursions directly through local agency and
                                save more than 50% .

                                So the mayor problem might be the booze.

                                And for the end :
                                The best informative price I got from a close contact
                                from a competitive company was 550 Euro inside cabin
                                and 650 euro outside cabin. This would be for a group
                                100-150 people around the same time and similar destinations.
                                He also told me that this is the only availability for such
                                a group this Year.

                                Everything else has been booked well in advance.

                                This is the price per person in a double room.
                                Children can go free in a four bed cabin.
                                Another additional expense is the tax of 115
                                euro per person which is not included in the price.

                                The ship is MSC Opera.
                                http://www.cruise-ferry-center.com/hr/default.asp?id=1051

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                                • EddyNLE Offline
                                  EddyNL
                                  last edited by

                                  Hey guys,

                                  I'm new here, whats all this talk about Base Camp?
                                  Is it like a get-together for SU users?

                                  viewtopic.php?f=271&t=11903 Modelling my city for Google Earth!

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                                  • M Offline
                                    mateo soletic
                                    last edited by

                                    Right James,
                                    I think that all these facts should be put forward and say
                                    we come to an average price of say XY Euros per person .
                                    for a weeks holiday. The transportation could be then calculated
                                    and added individually, You from Ireland, Me from Croatia...
                                    to form the final expected expenditure.
                                    And then we can ask how many people are going and see what
                                    we get.

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                                    • plot-parisP Offline
                                      plot-paris
                                      last edited by

                                      @mateo soletic said:

                                      The best informative price I got from a close contact
                                      from a competitive company was 550 Euro inside cabin

                                      @mateo soletic said:

                                      Another additional expense is the tax of 115
                                      euro per person which is not included in the price.

                                      so it is 665 Euro...

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      And just to add to that list Mateo, some of us would have to fly to the respective country and make our way to the port ..so add cost of flight and transportation.

                                      lets asume 100 Euro for travel there and back again.
                                      then we are at 765 Euro (and haven't took any excursions or alkohol in account)

                                      I am afraid for some (poor students like me for example) this will be quite a lot of money 😕

                                      for comparisson: you will get a hotel room (double room) in London - expensive city - for about 300 Euro a week

                                      I would like the idea of a whole ship full of SketchUp nerds very much though 😄

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                                      • M Offline
                                        mateo soletic
                                        last edited by

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        you will get a hotel room (double room) in London - expensive city - for about 300 Euro a week

                                        Yes but here You get five - six to ten courses meals a day. Everyone gain at least 3-4 kilos
                                        after they return. Free massages Spa, theatre, cinemas , entertainment of all sorts.
                                        But the drinks might be a problem. I think the cheapest bottle of Wine is 20 euros.

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                                        • plot-parisP Offline
                                          plot-paris
                                          last edited by

                                          @mateo soletic said:

                                          Free massages Spa, theatre, cinemas

                                          ok. I am in! 😄

                                          I am not so sure about gaining weight - half of us will lose 3 kg due to sea-sickness 😉

                                          food inclusive is definitely a point...

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                                          • S Offline
                                            sepo
                                            last edited by

                                            I think we should stay on firma terra 😉

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