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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
      last edited by

      Hi Folks,

      Interesting and useful topic. 👍

      Just an addition to Voder's bowl: you can soften the dividing lines after painting them so that the bowl looks more "roundish" but still keeps the different colours in the pattern. It is especially useful if rendering in a 3rd party software (it would show any non-softened edges really aswul).

      Gai...

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      • MALAISEM Offline
        MALAISE
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        Hi Simon

        Really good topic, and probably not a waste of time... 👍

        MALAISE

        La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
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          Hi Simon,

          It's always a pleasure to read your posts, really! Good to see you around after such a relatively long time! 👍

          Gai...

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          • simon le bonS Offline
            simon le bon
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            Gaieus, Malaise, I can't wait until my next post to reply for your kindness pleased me so.
            I know myself as a spare time SketchUp user. But i can bring to this fine community my small stone, my energy, my curiosity and a little bit more maybe.. 👍 👍 simon

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            • M Offline
              MikeR
              last edited by

              great tuts.....help me a lot to understand how S works.....just one question thou....if ever i want to put a hole on the rounded edges....how do i do that?? thanks....to the mods...pls move my post if im being OT 😄

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
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                T cut a hole into a curved surface (in general), you will need to build a 3D shape the cross section of which will be the shape you want the hole to be, poke it through the curved surface, select both the curved surface and the 3D shape, right click > Intersect... > Selected. This will create the edges between the surface and the shape and you can simply erase all unwanted geometry (generally the leftover of your 3D, cutting shape and the cut-away piece of your curved surface).

                Better understand by having a look at this tutorial - a little bit different example (not with a bowl) but the idea is the same.

                Gai...

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                • M Offline
                  MikeR
                  last edited by

                  got it!!!big help thanks!!! 😍

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                  • simon le bonS Offline
                    simon le bon
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                    Monday, March 2nd.
                    After months I come back on this thread.

                    First, it's because the illuminating and simple Voder Vocoder's solution isn't available anymore on DataFileHost.
                    So here is a permanent link for his (SU6)skp:
                    squat_bowl_vodervocoder.skp
                    .
                    In addition i have made this screencast in order to easy show it.
                    [flash=545,430:21w5tec9]http://www.viddler.com/simple/50d17f9e/[/flash:21w5tec9]
                    http://www.viddler.com/explore/slb02/videos/15/

                    re: Viddler videos are often hard to open. Given to the exceptional quality of it picture please don't give up: simply reload.. ;-)simon

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                    • Jean-FrancoJ Offline
                      Jean-Franco
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                      Excellent !!!

                      Jean-Franco

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by

                        Well, sometimes they DO load a bit harder (probably this depends on connection speed as well as server side bandwidth limitations) but I do like them for sure.

                        Maybe sometimes, when one opens the topic and many of the videos try to start streaming, it can be hard for internet connection.

                        Gai...

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                        • simon le bonS Offline
                          simon le bon
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                          If at the end of your KitoRaupp Pottery, you deselect ( 😮 Oups!) the spiral line you wanted (and needed) to remove, >> No Panic!!
                          Just take a look on this strange but very efficient new selection tool: "selected edges by defined angle", our frenchy Matt666 have developped in his last Selection Manager. It is specificaly a good tool to achieve the job ( to remove the spiral line) 😉 simon

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            @unknownuser said:

                            ( to remove the spiral line)

                            or the cool Select lines by length by Chris Fullmer 😉

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • simon le bonS Offline
                              simon le bon
                              last edited by

                              (Re: I give up posting direct videos on this thread, cause they seem to load more and more harder)

                              PAINTING THE BOWL


                              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/SanIldefonsoPottery_th.jpg


                              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/PaintingThebowl_Ath.jpg


                              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/PaintingThebowl_Bbth.jpg

                              Plus: here is the basic skp if you want to play with it:
                              PaintedBowl_c_a.skp

                              Tools On Surface - v1.3 Fredo6
                              Mirror_ v3.1 TIG
                              Selection manager v1.1 Matt666
                              :-)simonlebon

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                              • simon le bonS Offline
                                simon le bon
                                last edited by

                                Is it a Pottery Challenge or What? 😄

                                Here is another fantastic way i was totaly ignorant to model our Bowl. Thanks Pilou to link this to us!

                                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/PilouMiniPottery.jpg

                                Pilou's link linking to:

                                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/watkins.jpg

                                which linking to:
                                KitoRaupp Pottery Twist on Youtube
                                and
                                KitoRaupp Spirale Tutorial on Youtube
                                and others KitoRaupp productions 👍

                                On another hand the technic used is not so easy to reproduce. So I made this small video to clarify it. (I'm the author of nothing here). 😉 😉 😎 Simon

                                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/canyon_de_chelly_05t-02b.jpg


                                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/KitoRauppPottery.jpg

                                CenterPoint v.1.20 by Todd Burch

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                                • GaieusG Offline
                                  Gaieus
                                  last edited by

                                  These gif animations are very cool, Simon! Why don't you include the full size image with the [img] tags instead - after all they are not too big?

                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/videos/Spiral_b.gif

                                  Gai...

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                                  • simon le bonS Offline
                                    simon le bon
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi! dear Gaieus, our cool "watching and listening man" (I guess at night you like listen the stars in the sky !!)

                                    In facts I have made this Gif (450x337) to fit the forum. It is an experiment to deliver an animated explanation which needs just few seconds, for it is the case very often. I've first tried to display it in full format, afterwords I thought an animated thumbnail leading to the full format was better. I don't know. It depends of the case for sure 😐

                                    PS: i remember now why i made this way! This Gif is 732Ko . So if we put several in the same page we are surely going to difficult loading..

                                    simon

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                                    • simon le bonS Offline
                                      simon le bon
                                      last edited by

                                      Merci Jean-Franco 👍 😉
                                      Gaieus, "../but I do like them for sure. 👍 😄
                                      There is many advantages to use Viddler: great picture quality, easy upload, nice statistics, Flash or original downloads, video comments, good sharing options,... Nothing is perfect, the streaming is a bit erratic 😕 So I now put direct link systematically just below .


                                      I have made a mistake at the end of my previous second video, PaintingTheBowl_B.
                                      In order to reconstruct my Bowl, I have copied the single slice x49 (Cause my starting stripped tube was based on a 50 segments circle) (i had been surprise by the enormous time this operation had taken 😮 )
                                      In fact i had forgotten this supposed "single slice" was already made with a couple of slices (mirrored). So, it was only necessary to copy it by 24 !! 🤣

                                      Simon

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                                      • simon le bonS Offline
                                        simon le bon
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                                        %(#800000)[This thread is still intend to beginners. Regular SketchUp users might waste their time on this space (but who knows 🙂]
                                        .
                                        Secondly i have missed to explore a modeling way which makes school inside SU. It is certainly not the easiest way nor time saving one. But it is a fresh handmade way.

                                        Indian bowls:

                                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/th_Maricopa.jpg
                                        .
                                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/th_Qahatikawatergirl.jpg
                                        .
                                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/th_Potter_SantaClara.jpg
                                        .

                                        The starting shape:

                                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/PotterSC_StripedTube.jpg

                                        http://www.viddler.com/explore/slb02/videos/16/
                                        Main tips:
                                        [url=http://www.viddler.com/explore/slb02/videos/17/:dwaa06ky]
                                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/PotterSC_MainTips-1.jpg
                                        [/url:dwaa06ky]
                                        [url:dwaa06ky]http://www.viddler.com/explore/slb02/videos/17/[/url:dwaa06ky]
                                        Potter Santa Clara
                                        [url=http://www.viddler.com/explore/slb02/videos/18/:dwaa06ky]
                                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/PotterSC_IndianBowl.jpg
                                        [/url:dwaa06ky]
                                        [url:dwaa06ky]http://www.viddler.com/explore/slb02/videos/18/[/url:dwaa06ky]
                                        .
                                        .
                                        Additional References:
                                        [url=http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9079:dwaa06ky]GreenToaster "6 Minute Car" Vid Tuts[/url:dwaa06ky]
                                        [url=http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9561:dwaa06ky]Playing with curves[/url:dwaa06ky]

                                        Ruby scripts/Plugins:
                                        [url=http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=11212:dwaa06ky]Tools On Surface - v1.3[/url:dwaa06ky]
                                        [url=http://www.smustard.com/script/MakeFaces:dwaa06ky]MakeFaces v.1.40[/url:dwaa06ky]

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                                        • simon le bonS Offline
                                          simon le bon
                                          last edited by

                                          Due to the intensive manipulations, we are driven to make a lot of small mistakes. Most of them they come from Move tool. This is problematic when we want to paint and modify the object.

                                          Here is cases of twisted rings.

                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/th_twistedRing_a.jpg
                                          , ,
                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/th_twistedRing_b.jpg

                                          So here is a second method, yes less fun but more robust:

                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/PotterSC_alternate.jpg

                                          http://www.viddler.com/explore/slb02/videos/19/

                                          "Are you silly or what Simon? Just take a look at that and then tell me what!"
                                          [url=http://www.viddler.com/explore/slb02/videos/20/:vfaskebg]
                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/PotterSC_simple.jpg
                                          [/url:vfaskebg]
                                          [url:vfaskebg]http://www.viddler.com/explore/slb02/videos/20/[/url:vfaskebg]
                                          "And please give me now only a reason to waste your time this way!"

                                          [url=http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/twistedRing_motive.jpg:vfaskebg]"I surely have a reply to you (just clic on me:-)"[/url:vfaskebg]

                                          "Here is an exemple of what i mean"
                                          [url=http://www.viddler.com/explore/slb02/videos/22/:vfaskebg]
                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/PotterSC_temple.jpg
                                          [/url:vfaskebg]
                                          [url:vfaskebg]http://www.viddler.com/explore/slb02/videos/22/[/url:vfaskebg]

                                          [url=http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=13563&st=0&sk=t&sd=a:vfaskebg][Plugin] BezierSpline v1.21[/url:vfaskebg]

                                          Aren't you tired with all these video?
                                          ;-)simon

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                                          • simon le bonS Offline
                                            simon le bon
                                            last edited by

                                            @simon le bon said:

                                            Monday, March 2nd.
                                            After months I come back on this thread.

                                            First, it's because the illuminating and simple Voder Vocoder's solution isn't available anymore on DataFileHost.

                                            Secondly because since the end of this first part thread, fantastic tools had been developped by some (wellknown) especially tallented Ruby Makers. An important part of those tools leads to allow SketchUp to be a modelling engine.

                                            so Here is my PoorFlatEllipsoidIndian Bowl made with: SubdivideAndSmooth v.1.00 _ by Dale Martens (Whaat)
                                            (I must say i'm not at all specialized with S&S. It is not an easy set of tools. I must confess that when after a while, i want use it again, i must go back to see the video tuts 1 & 2 again and again 😄. But, but, little a little i find solutions to obtain what i want!! 👍 )(So for asking help, you can face up to our great masters as: Solo, Teezer, Boofredlay, Kwistenbiebel, Mariocha,.. sorry for those I forget or ignore)


                                            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/PotterSC_SS-1.jpg

                                            Additional References:

                                            Plugins:
                                            Zorro2 (beta) by Whaat on Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:55 am

                                            Tutorials:
                                            Tutorial Part 1
                                            Tutorial Part 2
                                            SubD2_fauteuil
                                            Pillow

                                            Various threads:
                                            In Development: Subdivide and Smooth
                                            Just Released! Subdivide and Smooth
                                            Curtains
                                            need help with Solos tutorial?
                                            Still playing with SubSmooth
                                            Organic Chair Model Question....I need help?
                                            [TUTORIAL]: texturing organic form (subsmooth)
                                            subd and smooth stuff

                                            . Ouf! simon.

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