This could have been the future of sketchup?....
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Hi people,
Autodesk presented their latest technology preview : "Newport".
I have a hate relationship with everything Autodesk produces, but this knocks me off my feet.In this link there is a video (halfway the page) you must see.
Mostly the last few minutes are amazing.
This should have been Sketchup!
The link: http://revit-up.blogspot.com/2008/02/more-revit-2009-news.htmlCheers,
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Well, was that an interactive, PR rendered model (or "just" a fast animation render)?
(I have no sound and nothing on my office machine
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The whole movie shows the 'real time' viewport rendering.
Only at the last minute, a fully photoreal rendering (animation) is shown.
Both the 'real time' as the actual renderings are superb. -
Well, let's see what they come up with in SU7 (though I doubt it will be the same).
Maybe we should move this thread to the wish list?
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Sadly, I really don't have great expectations for SketchUp 7!
SketchUp was the dream of a couple of guys working on a small
shoe string but with big ideas.I have found that most great innovations were hatched in small
companies or one man shows. I'm not sure what it is that makes
this so, maybe the hunger!While Google may have the best intentions in the World I don't
think the true innovation sprit is really there, pity it has to
be this way.However, I will be the first to admit I was wrong if this is
the case.Mike
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"Running on a system with multiple quad-coreCPUs"
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Dang.
It's times like this when you really realize how stagnant and less than impressive SU is getting. It has gone from one of the most amazing things I have seen on a computer to poorly updated, limited feature set, and poorly coded for using modern equipment.
It is almost depressing.
And can you image how poor SU would seem if we didn't have all of these amazing and inventive Ruby scriptors? In all seriousness, if it wasn't for everyone who is not Google who makes the SU experience what it is (and I am way way including Coen and Gaieus and everyone else who made this forum so fantastic) I would have probably already moved on to different softwares.
I mean, no meaningful updates to the Mac side of things in over a year, and this is with SU being fundamentally flawed on the Mac side. I notified tech support 2 days after SU 6 released that animations exported in ver 6 were unusable because of terrible z-fighting type corruptions and it still hasn't been fixed! I am still doing all my animation exports in ver 5!! I can't tell you how awesome it is knowing I have one of the most powerful computers around and I have to boot SU through Rosetta and use only one core for exporting.
Jeez, writing this almost makes me want to go check out Revit again, as much as it pains me to admit it. I think we all knew it when it happened that Google buying SU was not a good thing, but experience, unfortunately, has proven to be even worse than I imagined.
I mean, look at the progress on Layout, hahaha.
And they give us some stupid, useless for a pro user, Style builder. I use SU every single day and I have not even downloaded that bit of useless fluff.
Can anyone tell that I haven't had my coffee yet?
-rant off-
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I have to admit I am disappointed, as a one-time poster boy for SketchUp (don't ask!), about the lack of significant extension of the software. People pay me to do SketchUp and my SketchUp class is still occasionally over-subscribed, but for my own projects I'm spending time with other software.
But you know, AutoDesk makes my skin crawl. I had a dream the other night where President McCain supported AutoDesk-sponsored legislation requiring all architecture to be "BIM-compliant"...and "BIM" meant Revit. And then they made the legislation retroactive, so that any building that had not been made with Revit had to be imploded.
After that it got really scary: the President of AutoDesk, Inc. took over the US Government in a bloody coup televised live on CNN. It turned out that she was in fact a human/marsupial hybrid, with a pouch and kangaroo-type feet. All non-marsupial citizens were required to submit to radical surgery that would equip them with pouches, or else they would be subject to euthanasia without trial...
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Wow, such hate for AutoDesk
Why? They are no different from MS, Adobe or even Apple! They ALL buy up the little guys!As for the lack of updates and growth of SU I seem to recall the joy of when it was announced on the old forum that Google was buying and there was an almost unanimous cheer that "at least it wasn't autodesk". I myself wondered what Google would bring to the table and path did they intend for SU. At least if a CAD company bought SU that it might continue to grow in that field. I feel freer to voice this now that the forums are not run by Google. I guess we'll see what comes of SU7. Perhaps if I don't expect much we'll get a surprise
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Nowadays I have the same feeling with Sketchup I had in the nineties with the Commodore Amiga.
The Amiga was wonderful hardware back then (definitely compared to the PC's )...but that wasn't enough to keep development going.
I would hate seeing Sketchup die a slow death like that. -
@unknownuser said:
Nowadays I have the same feeling with Sketchup I had in the nineties with the Commodore Amiga.
The Amiga was wonderful hardware back then (definitely compared to the PC's )...but that wasn't enough to keep development going.
I would hate seeing Sketchup die a slow death like that.....
why revit and AD commonly(they like MS - only make the money...)?
look at some revi-forums/i saw some artistic death.../
but i think that no reason to pannic/AD will not buy SU from Google//// -
@kwistenbiebel said:
Nowadays I have the same feeling with Sketchup I had in the nineties with the Commodore Amiga.
The Amiga was wonderful hardware back then (definitely compared to the PC's )...but that wasn't enough to keep development going.
I would hate seeing Sketchup die a slow death like that.I hope this doesn't happen either but as long as my copy keeps working
I would hope that if Google did let it die that they would at least take offers to buy it and keep it going. -
I'm putting my hopes on 7 as well (6 reminds me of autocad rel 13). If they're dashed (my hopes that is :`) I'll be looking for a program to carry on with large models after sketching them in SU5.
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I don't know if the film itself was anything special. Everybody knows that nice things can be achieved with software if you have the hardware to do it. Still-look at the slow regeneration when the "realism" is turned on at the near-end of the film. The thing is clearly pre-texturing the environment, just like a video game. The same might happen if the new renderer for SU, developed by someone, or something similar, ever gets done. And it was essentially a rendering app, not a modeller. Someone had still to have modelled all that in Revit. And the commercial product will cost something that only film studios and the like can afford.
I have no problem of using Autodesk software - I do it daily - if I don't have to pay for it myself. I still think i know AutoCad better than SU. But the established user base and their bias toward corporate clients makes it difficult for Autodesk to do anything radical and new, let alone free.
This is what makes me afraid for SU too. Remember the whining with the changes in v.6? So anything new Google brings to SU will also raise a storm of protest: Raise the minimum specs? Double the price?
I always seem to find myself an apologist for Google, but I still have not seen another software suited for designing my humble 3D architectural objects with a better interface. Blob architecture is no longer à la mode, and my clients wouldn't care for it anyway (not that it is easy to make in any of the BIM packages either).
Professional renderers might see this differently, but I understand that the use of SU among them for modelling (for projects without a BIM model supplied bu the client) is still rather in the increase than declining-even among users of behemoths like Maya or Max
Sorry about my incoherent ramblings
Anssi
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Gee,
Its a bit sad reading through these posts...I don't even feel like saying I told you so.
The overwhelming concensus is that SU is heading down the gurgler.I would love to think that SU7 [there is such a thing?] will prove us all wrong but I doubt it....my guess is that it will converge with the free version [almost has anyway] and be heavily biased to Gooogle Earth. And then that's it!
I have always had the theory that Brad sold out after SU hit a developmental brick wall....nothing much more can be done without a complete re-write.
Stu
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I'm not sure how you can suggest that nothign else can be done withotu a rewrite stu, you only have tog lance at the ruby forum to see there is a lot of exciting thigns that could be added as fully fledged features.
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Since Viz is now officially dead, and 3DSMax Design also claims photorealistic realtime views... am anxious to see it, but it will be a month before the beta comes out.
But as KB's video link shows... Revit is indeed where our firm will probably need to go.
bye bye SU, loved ya.
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i don t care and i don t know what u deeply think,but i m very satisfied with SU since i discovered it,and i get better for each model that i build in it(my opinion)
Of cource i don t get my bread with it,yet,but i would like to;maybe for this u search others better softwares.The market is big u jsut have to chose,i made my choice
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