Create and Insert a Component
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Hey J,
The "halfin/halfout" is the typical look of coplanar planes (the wall and the component fighting for space). If you want the component to cut an opening in the wall it needs to be created when it is an opening in a face...just draw and create it on the wall inside the group (with or without the opening "sides") and make sure you check "cut opening" (I use "any" for the glue).
Hope this helps, Tom.
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Perhaps I should clarify that I sometimes get error messages saying "can't put that there", or a No-Go symbol. Obviously I am not clear on the protocols for inserting objects into groups.
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I tried placing the cut opening component directly on the wall, but when I tried to push it into the wall, it wouldn't go. Again, it seems to be a procedure or protocol misunderstanding on my part.
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I'm not quite following what you are trying to do. But if I was making such a louvre in a wall group, I'd do it something like the attached.
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Alan
that looks very similar to what I have been doing. However, I don't follow when you say, "drag component out of browser".
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When you create a component, it will be added to the Component browser...In Model tab. Just drag it out of the browser window onto the wall. Open the wall first if its grouped.
At this point, the component is just "internal"...you haven't actually saved it as a separate file. If you do want it as an "external" file to use in other models, don't save it from the File menu, right click its icon in the browser and "Save As".
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I see; I was thinking of the wrong browser. Still, I can't see what I am doing wrong.
When I enter a group and place the component on the wall face, it will cut a wall opening, but it won't Push back into the wall---it will only Pull out of the wall. What is that trying to tell me?
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Speaking of Groups, it would help me to know when I am editing a specific Group. In VectorWorks, a Group ID pops up and you can't select anything outside of the group while editing inside the group. So it's not such a struggle to avoid selecting the wrong item. I can't find anything like that in SU.
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@jhearcht said:
...When I enter a group and place the component on the wall face, it will cut a wall opening, but it won't Push back into the wall---it will only Pull out of the wall. What is that trying to tell me?
You have most probably screwed something up with the component axes and it is gluing somehow inside out. Make sure to create the component in the way Alan described above. Or maybe do this:
- enter the group's entity
- draw a rectangle with the desired dimensions
- selet all the rectangle and make it a component (glue to: any, cut opening: yes) - this should make sure you are setting the right gluing plane
- only now pus/pull it to depth and make all the changes.
@unknownuser said:
Speaking of Groups, it would help me to know when I am editing a specific Group. In VectorWorks, a Group ID pops up and you can't select anything outside of the group while editing inside the group. So it's not such a struggle to avoid selecting the wrong item. I can't find anything like that in SU.
When editing a group (or a component), you cannot select anything outside its context in SU either.
Besides, when right clicking an entity, you can choose "Entity info" with a couple of information.
Also, there is the Outliner window (Window menu) where you can easily select entities (even nested ones) as well as check out (and modify) all the structure of your model. -
J...time for a pic of "it will cut a wall opening, but it won't Push back into the wall---it will only Pull out of the wall". Can you post a couple of screen captures?
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