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      PRSS
      last edited by

      Hello everybody!

      I just installed a Nvidia Geforce 8600 GT 512 MB card - specifically for SketchUP.

      While I am very happy with the speed of panning, orbiting and moving,
      etc. I am a bit disappointed regarding the display. The sky (if turned on)
      goes off or becomes black and again comes back when orbitting, panning,
      etc. It does not happen when the sky is turned off and a color is used
      instead. Again when a drop down menu from a toolbar is open and if I
      want to select objects with window selection, the display of the objects
      are wierd - they look sliced and shifted - but when no drop down menu
      is open it behaves okay.

      Is it probably because the card is a Geforce and not a Quadro? My vendor
      was kind enough to give me a demo 8800 GTS card for testing -
      same thing happened with that also.

      Even with Quicktime movies there is a big problem. Audio is okay but the
      screen display is - you only see some jagged surface jittering.

      Is this normal for this card - any body else experiencing this problem?

      Thanks in advance
      PRSS

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        remus
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        have you got the latest drivers and stuff?

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          tomsdesk
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            PRSS
            last edited by

            Thanks,

            I installed the driver that came in the CD with the card.

            No I do not have intellimouse nor its drivers.

            I just googled about this problem and found out that lot of people are
            having the same problems with this card. The solution seems to turn off the sky
            and have a colour instead. Then for the selection window, antialiasing has to be
            turned off - then the weird display does not happen - or do not have open
            toolbars when doing a selection. There does not seem to be any real solution.

            With best regards
            PRSS

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              remus
              last edited by

              probably wont help with the SU problem, but its worth installing the latest drivers, they cna make a big difference in the performance of your card and are usually less buggy.

              heres the link to download the drivers: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

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                peterbnilsson
                last edited by

                Unfortunately, the latest drivers may not help. I recently got a new 8800gt and have been having similar problems (ie. selection window issues when AA is turned on). In my search for a solution (which is still on-going) I have found that the current nvidia drivers, while fixing some issues that people had with certain games, seems to have messed something up with opengl applications and some games. I have rolled back to a previous nvidia driver version (163.xx) after reading somewhere that it might help. Unfortunately it didn't solve the problems I was having, so I guess I'll wait until the next nvidia release and see if it improves. Honestly I'm a little disappointed in the performance upgrade in sketchup with this new card, but I was aware going in that it wouldn't be, maybe one day I'll pony up for a quadro.

                Remus, definitely post back if you come across something that works.

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                  remus
                  last edited by

                  well i havent actually got a problem with my curren setup, and i use a different card all together, so probably wont be posting back with a solution 😛

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                  • DanielD Offline
                    Daniel
                    last edited by

                    Have you opened the NVIDIA control panel and looked at the settings? I got a new desktop at work with GeForce 8800 card, and it performed poorly at first. Turned out the settings were off.

                    Also, what is your operating system? Processor? I've got the GeForce 8600 256MB card at home (Windows XP), and it works great. But I've noticed some people with the 512MB card seem to have problems. Makes me think there is some kind of compatability issue, especially with Windows XP (Dell did not offer the 512MB card with any laptops running XP).

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                      tomsdesk
                      last edited by

                      Daniel, what are your working settings?

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                        peterbnilsson
                        last edited by

                        Remus, sorry I meant that last comment for PRSS just looked at the wrong name.

                        Daniel, I would also like to know your working settings.

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                          PRSS
                          last edited by

                          Thank you all so much for the replies and help.

                          My working settings (which I prefer to have) are: Antialiasing at 4x,
                          Sky turned on. I like to see the model with smooth edges even when I
                          work. That is one of the reasons that I bought the card for.

                          My operating system is Windows XP - SP2. My card is Geforce 8600 GT 512 MB
                          DDR2, supporting Direct X 10.

                          My computer is a Desktop Pentium Core2 Duo - 1.8 GHZ, with 2 GB DDR2 RAM
                          and with a 17 inches (4:3) Flat panel LCD monitor.

                          In fact I am now becoming contended with the work-around. I have disabled
                          floating toolbars - have only docked toolbars. Turn the sky off and have a blue
                          background instead. With these SU is working quite fine. I find SU quite
                          fast with this card (I have been without any add-on graphics card for so long

                          • so the difference I see is quite amazing).

                          I did not and still do not want to put money in expensive graphics cards like
                          Quadro FX series. This card is working fine with AutoCAD and 3ds Max also.
                          But I am really not bothered about with AutoCAD and 3ds Max. I primarily prefer
                          to work with SketchUP for conceptual 3d.

                          Thanks again
                          With best regards
                          PRSS

                          P.S.

                          By the way, the problem with the Quicktime movie was accidentally solved
                          by me. If I open 2 Quicktime movie windows simultaneously, it works. If
                          I close the first window both windows close. Funny behaviour - but it
                          is atleast working!

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                            peterbnilsson
                            last edited by

                            Thanks for the update PRSS, I'll have to try those settings and see if it helps with my problems as well. Ultimately though, I'm hoping Nvidia will come through with a fix in their next driver release.

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                              Daniel
                              last edited by

                              Here's a screen capture of my settings. Most of these were off when I got the computer (????!!!!). I'm still not sure if the settings are optimal, just haven't had time to work on it. What I have now was trial-and-error. Another thing I did was change the computer from 64-bit to 32-bit. I'll try to remember to look at my laptop at home and see what settings it has (that machine is SWEET! - sorry if I sound like I am bragging).


                              3Dsettings.jpg

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                                peterbnilsson
                                last edited by

                                Thanks Daniel, I'll look at my settings when I get home and compare. We'll see if this helps.

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                                  PRSS
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi everybody !

                                  If you download this latest driver for 8600 or 8800 series cards (for Windows XP),
                                  the problem with the sky is eliminated.

                                  But the Quicktime movie will not play okay whatever you do. It was working with the
                                  previous driver with the work-around I had mentioned already.

                                  This just for updating the information.
                                  With best regards
                                  PRSS.

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                                    gata
                                    last edited by

                                    Have you installed the latest version of QuickTime? A problem they had with the ensharpen codec the SU team uses in its videos has been fixed - although that was an audio problem.

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                                      PRSS
                                      last edited by

                                      No, I do not have the latest Quicktime. I have Quicktime 7 - the version that out a
                                      year back or so.

                                      I do not have problems with the ensharpen codec. Those tutorials are running fine.
                                      It is with the movies (real cinema movies - trailers downloaded)that the problem
                                      exists.

                                      Anyway I shall try out with the latest version of Quicktime.

                                      With best regards
                                      PRSS

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