In Development: Subdivide and Smooth
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I think a bit different on this topic. I would hope the SubD plugin is priced high enough to make the developer a bit of money-- enough so he continues to create quality plugins. While this plugin won't turn SU into a SubD modeler like Modo or Silo3D, it does allow SU users to easily create shapes which until now were difficult if not impossible to make.
I encourage plugin developers to create professional packaged solutions, with tutorials and charge a fair price for them. Once they start making decent money on them, there certainly will be even more powerful and professional plugins, adding never before seen capabilities to SU.
I would think a $25-40 range would be more inline with the various capabilities of this particular plugin. Just my 2 cents.
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That is the nature of free trade and economics chipp. My post was based on the following:
@whaat said:
I am targeting a May 1st release date (no promises though
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@chippwalters said:
I would think a $25-40 range would be more inline with the various capabilities of this particular plugin. Just my 2 cents.
Ultimately, Whaat should charge whatever he wants. Do I feel, however, this plugin is worth "$25-40"? Yeah, I do.
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i knew this was too good to be true (Free)
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There is a free version by Rick Wilson on Smustard. It's not the same thing as Whaat is producing, but it has some similar functionality.
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There is a script called MySmustard through which you can re-download any script you bought. Also, if you save the e-mails they send you with the URL to the download for the script you should also be able to re-download scripts you've paid for.
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I wont lie, when I said 10-15 bucks I was really just hoping thats what it would be. I wont deny this is worth 25-40 dollars worth of work. Well, he deserves several hundred or more for his time really, but per person and all... Although I think it would be more reasonable for people like me who do not use SU for profit if it were in the upper range of Smustard's prices, but not higher.
Personally I think 20 dollars is more than acceptable. But how does that site work? If you pay for a plugin do you get some sort of account or login so you can re-download it at any time? I would hate to not know how it works, get my 20 dollar download then accidentally reinstall XP without backing it up. Although I imagine this has been thought of already correct?
@Kwisten. Do you have a checking account? If so you can probably get a debit card (if you don't have one already). These days debit cards are used everywhere more widely as credit cards for small purchases. At least thats how it is in the US, im not sure where you reside.
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I tried the free version (catmullclark subd) but had difficulties with it
When applying it to a sphere for example, I end up with christmas decoration
About Whaats paying script,
He deserves to get paid for it as he works hard on it.
Somehow I would love this kind of functionality in the official SU built though (SU7).
Since I don't use credit cards, I rule myself out from buying commercial scripts. (unless bank wiring is a paying method). -
@unknownuser said:
(Dale, does this one bevel edges? And if not, would you please consider developing one that does, someday? Lots of SU users, including myself, would pay good money for a decent bevelling tool.)
Sorry, it does not directly bevel edges although it is possible make a rounded cube quite easily with the plugin.
Before I got into this plugin I started work on a bevel script. It is only in the proof of concept stage. I am hesitant to devote a lot of time to it because I'm worried that SU7 will include a bevel feature and then all my work would be for nothing.
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Good point. Oh well. Bevelling by hand it is!
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AMAZING!
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Hey whaat can you make a free version pretty pretty please?
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@baker518 said:
If you really want to make it interesting, make it available for SU Pro, ONLY. That would separate it for those of us who use SU Free for dabbling and such. I'm not being facetious or trying to be mean. Would I buy it? not for my toying around, that's the difference. If it were free, I would try it out. If drawing and design was my primary profession, I would have the Pro version and gladly pay the price for this script, if I needed it. I've watched the video, read the feedback, and I think its a great script.
Excellent work, my hat's off to you for your resilience in making this possible, kudos to you Whaat.
In that case why don't we all have a blood test and those with pure blood can get this script !!!!
If there is a charge for this script so be it, I am in a low paying casual job, and if its not too pricy I will try and buy it, if it comes free even better, but lets not ostracize people like myself who can't afford Pro from getting what looks like to be a great script.
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It would be cool if we could try it out... maybe make a trial version?
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@baker518 said:
I'm not being facetious or trying to be mean.
"fa·ce·tious–adjective
not meant to be taken seriously or literally: a facetious remark."I think you are being facetious, or I'm missing the intent of your message. Or are you actually suggesting not allowing the plugin to run on free versions of SU? Is that even possible?
Yes. You must be kidding.
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Pick another word if you don't like that one. I could very well be using it out of context, I'm not above being inaccurate, wrong, or corrected. I think constructive criticism can be worthwhile.
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I'm just trying to understand what the intent of the original point was? Why would a developer not want to release a plugin for both the free and Pro versions of SU? I, really don't understand why this would be a good thing. Perhaps I'm just a bit dim and not paying attention-- wouldn't be the first time
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If you really want to make it interesting, make it available for SU Pro, ONLY. That would separate it for those of us who use SU Free for dabbling and such. Would I buy it? not for my toying around, that's the difference. If it were free, I would try it out. If drawing and design was my primary profession, I would have the Pro version and gladly pay the price for this script, if I needed it. I've watched the video, read the feedback, and I think its a great script.
Excellent work, my hat's off to you for your resilience in making this possible, kudos to you Whaat.
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I agree with both Philip and Ray. And as I said, I was not being insensitive with my comments. If this were a script I needed for a job or specific purpose, I would not be hesitate purchasing it for either version. But, at this moment it not an essential for me to have and by no means am I trying to slight Whaat in getting a return on his investment either. I admire anyone who sees a need and can fill it, either for himself or someone else. By the way, I don't know that I will ever be in the position to afford or need the Pro version, so for now the free version does just great for what I use it for.
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Chip,
The intent of my original point was this: Doing what I do with SU, I probably wouldn't buy this script unless I had a specific purpose or need for it. The price is insignificant to me from that standpoint. If it were free, I might try it, see what I could do with it. It might be something I would use often, but then again, it might not be.Secondly: If I were in a profession (or not) that required more than the free version, and I needed it, I would purchase it, regardless of the price and recoup my investment along the way.
Thirdly: I have no idea if a script could be written specifically for one version or not, but I would think that it could be. There again, I have been wrong before.
and lastly: I looked up the meaning of facetious. You were absolutely correct in your definition. My usage of the word was incorrect, and to that, I say "Thank You" for calling me on it.
My apologies to all I may have offended.
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