Its official: 3DW is full of junk??
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@scott said:
Yes, improving discoverability of good content is a big focus. We've implemented some features to help. Collections, and collections of collections, help browsing. We implemented improved search and added ratings. I agree we have more work to do. Serving up good content helps the content consumers and rewards the high quality content creators.
Scott
Welcome Scott. How many people work on the 3D Warehouse site?
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Hi Jim,
For competitive reasons we don't talk about team sizes. Sorry. But I can say that we have a really good team working on the 3DWH. They are passionate about improving the user experience and surfacing the best content.
Scott
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I find it increasingly hard to find anything of value. The categorization of files is exceedingly poor. I was very excited about it at first and as more manufacturers added their products. It then got a bit ridiculous, having to go through pages of fasteners that were poorly explained got tedious. The other day I entered "children" as a search string and got very little of value or of much relevance to children.
I have gotten to the point where I will only go there as a last resort.
For me, yes it is full of junk.
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Let me go get my running shoes, be right back. . . . OK, I'm back. Let me ask this, how much are you paying for the stuff you're looking for at the 3DW? Maybe you're getting what you're paying for. But with the investment of a little time and effort, perhaps you can get more than what you're paying for. And if your time is worth too much to waste it looking through stuff that you personally, individually think is junk in order to find some jewel which is the fruits of someone else's labor given to you freely, then put your money down and buy what you want from someplace selling the stuff.
Keep in mind that the stuff you see as junk is likely someone else's pride and joy. Something they put their heart and soul into. No, I don't work for Google, and I've never put anything in the warehouse, in fact I seldom go looking at stuff there. I pay for web space and have placed a number of my sketchup works on my site and you're more than welcome to them. I believe my sig line has a link to my website. But unless you're looking to build the furniture in those skippies, they probably way larger than what you want.
Everyone likes to be "published" and that is one of the things that makes the internet such an eclectic place with never a shortage of stuff to look at and learn. It's why folks with a whole ton of talent come to places like this to help us with less talent strive to improve. And they're giving of themselves freely, sometimes burning up their keyboards to be the first to respond to someone's question. Would that my employer got that sort of excitement from me when it pertained to my job.
Guess what I'm saying is don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Either take the horse or move on, but don't hold up the line of folks with horses they're willing to give away because the thorough bred you're lookin for isn't right there in the open.
Ducking and running for cover.
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Lets put it this way:
Compared to the general quality of the work available for free in the old atLast SU forum, a very large proportion of the stuff on the 3DW is junk and difficult to wade through. Sort of like wading through s___ up to your waist and rising...
The old forum had tons of really good useful work, and not much crap. No one posted mountains of fasteners or other poorly converted Autocad symbols and called it good...
Free doesn't need to mean poorly organized, difficult to search or poor quality. Its great the SU is free and it provides a great place to share your creations, but it would be nice if someone was chasing around trying to properly categorize some of the dross.
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@kmead said:
...The old forum had tons of really good useful work, and not much crap. No one posted mountains of fasteners or other poorly converted Autocad symbols and called it good...
You mean the old pro forums before the switch to groups shudders? i know what you mean, heck, the only reason why i post there was to make some announcements and such.
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If you would like to voice your opinion via on online survey, the 3D Warehouse has a User Happiness survey linked from the front page.: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/
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I personally think that the 3DW site is exactly what Google wants it to be. And yes - there is a higher percentage of junk there, as would be expected for a free software. While there are some nice collections, including those from manufacturers - it is not a professional site. I don't fault any users for the quality of what they post. I think it is great that they feel good about modeling something and sharing it, but I don't expect much from the masses that post there.
Take it for what it has become, and if you find something usefull in the time you search - good for you.
The couple of things I would like to see improved are:
1- No files should be posted without an adequate thumbnail (please - no more "ants in a blizzard" views)
2- 71,000 files name "Untitled" and counting (what - you don't like your work enough to name the file?)
3- A way for persons to filter what they see. For example, I would love to be able to block my searches from seeing content by any modeler I identify and add to an "exclude" list.Bytor
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#3 would be very cool except that folks wantingto shove the stuff you or me might find distasteful would create numerous user names to post under and we'd still see their stuff.
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Hey, what is going on with the 3Dwarehouse last weeks?
When entering search strings I seem to get a lot of those low poly Google Earth models of buildings all around.And for some strange reason they all get 5 star ratings so they always pop up.
Who would rate these buildings 5 stars and who actually can use these models in their own scenes? Does google rate those themselves? -
sk.lion - What name do you share your models under on the 3DW?
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true, all my models are in the warehouse and if i heard someone commenting something i gonna get them all down from there because i ve made big investments in them!!!!!!!!
I don t say that there aren t people malintentioned,but those can be removed and i expect from your team scott to take care of them when we ll send to you the reports.Anyway thx for this place!I met here lot of guys wich are mine friends now...Cheers!
and...
Happy sketching!elisei
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for example is a guy now in the warehouse who want to play with lot of us his nickname is lee take it down pls
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@ely862me said:
for example is a guy now in the warehouse who want to play with lot of us his nickname is lee take it down pls
I don't understand what you're trying to say here, please clarify.
Also, SCF has no control over 3D Warehouse content control.
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@ely862me said:
for example is a guy now in the warehouse who want to play with lot of us his nickname is lee take it down pls
You have the ability to report a policy violation directly from the 3D Warehouse. Just look for the "report a policy violation" link when looking at someone's work, and it will be reviewed.
I looked up people with the title "lee" and only found that he has a model saying that someone is using his work.. ??
Please clarify and I'll see if I can help.
Cheers,
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The warehouse does have a lot of junk, but it also has a lot of great stuff. You just have to wade through the trash to get to quality. I think many people have stopped using it because they don't want to associate themselves with the trash. That keeps the average level of quality down.
I put a lot of my stuff up and I hope it is useful to someone somewhere, but I seldom get any feedback.
There's another whole dynamic which I found out about. People (kids) are using the 3DW as a social networking site. Communicating by posting ratings and reviews of models and posting models which are just messages.
As it is, it adds very little value to SU, but if Google policed it properly, it would be a big selling point for SU. It would take a lot of effort though. I'd think Google could write some kind of a 'bot which would do it. I thought Google could do anything.
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@schreiberbike said:
The warehouse does have a lot of junk, but it also has a lot of great stuff. You just have to wade through the trash to get to quality.
So it is not very different from the Internet in general... Or a typical used books store.
Anssi -
Personally I still think 3D warehouse is a cool place to look for models (besides the GE stuff).
For instance, I recently found this 3D horse over there, which I think is not a bad model:
....Which leads me to following idea:
Shouldn't we have a thread with 'bien-trouvés' of 3D warehouse? It could be a thread in the component section...
People could post models they found on the 3D warehouse and which were really useful to them.
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Without control there is no quality. I take all my stuff from Form Fonts. When I couldnt find for what I was looking for there I went to Warehouse . My experience was that it took me more time searching and cleaning the model for use than if I had made it myself.
But I agree with kwistenbiebel, I found some good horses over there. -
I guess Formfonts is a good place as well but I always try to find something for free off course before jumping to the comercial ones
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