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  • R Offline
    remus
    last edited by 29 Mar 2008, 15:35

    How about the a button that, instead of stopping sketchy physics and resetting the scene just turns of sketchy physics without resetting the scene. I'm just thinking it could be really useful for setting up scenes for rendering. For example, if you wanted to fill up a fruit bowl you could spend ages messing about moving copies of bits of fruit around, rotating them etc. trying to get a natural look OR you could turn on sketchy physics and let it do all the hard work for you.

    http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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      LilDood
      last edited by 29 Mar 2008, 16:43

      Just save it without pressing the stop/rewind button

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      • R Offline
        remus
        last edited by 29 Mar 2008, 17:42

        Yay, it works! cheers for the tip lildood.

        heres some before and after shots for anyone whos interested.

        http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3229/2370926911_f8a41e8dc7.jpg?v=0

        http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2228/2370927097_1ea58fb9af.jpg?v=0

        p.s. srry jenu, photobucket didnt want to work πŸ˜’

        http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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          jgb
          last edited by 27 Apr 2008, 18:28

          An extension to this good idea, is perhaps a "frame step" button for SP. Click on [frame step] and each mouse click or [enter] key advances the SP run action, one (or user defined) frame at a time. Then you can easily take a snapshot at any stage of the scenes progress, at any view angle or zoom, assuming scene creation will work during an SP run.

          jgb


          jgb

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            Curbs
            last edited by 28 Apr 2008, 04:53

            Thanks for the tip, I've wondered the same thing.

            You're right about using it to set up a scene. I would hate to try and make that bowl full of fruit in Sketchup WITHOUT SP! That would be a LOT of move copying, and the placement probably would never look right.

            After seeing Remus' model, it sparked my imagination:

            http://curbs77.googlepages.com/GumballMachine_small.png

            How else could you model a jar full of gumballs without SP?

            I've attached the model. It's a whole lotta fun to press PLAY and watch it fill up! (Sorry if you don't like white gumballs, I didn't feel like coloring tonight!)


            Gumball Machine1.skp

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              GreyHead
              last edited by 28 Apr 2008, 13:43

              Looks pretty rendered in Kerkythera too.

              Bob


              gumball_2.jpg

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                remus
                last edited by 28 Apr 2008, 13:50

                Whats with those little yellow spots? looks liek the balls might be poking through the inner wall of the bowl πŸ˜‰

                http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                  GreyHead
                  last edited by 28 Apr 2008, 15:40

                  Remus - yes, I think that's what's happening. Must be something about the way SketchyPhysics handles contact spaces. Haven't had time to go back and explore.

                  Bob

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                    CPhillips
                    last edited by 28 Apr 2008, 17:11

                    @greyhead said:

                    Remus - yes, I think that's what's happening. Must be something about the way SketchyPhysics handles contact spaces. Haven't had time to go back and explore.

                    Bob

                    SketchyPhysics could certainly push the spheres into the walls, but it looks like the marble at the top has the same artifact and it isn't in a wall.

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                      jgb
                      last edited by 28 Apr 2008, 19:26

                      SU has a "bad habit" of showing bits of stuff thats behind a face as you zoom away from it.

                      In several of my models, I have a face that is an inch thick (actually 2 faces an inch apart) and there is some structure attached to the inner face. When I look at the outer face from a short distance, the face is clean. As I pull away, ghosts of the structure an inch away start to appear on the outer face. They go away as I zoom back in. These aren't hidden lines either.

                      So I suspect that is what we are seeing in that exquisite rendering, and it being transparent, the ghosting is more appearant.

                      jgb


                      jgb

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                        solo
                        last edited by 28 Apr 2008, 20:08

                        Try this:

                        Once the sequence has completed and all balls are in jar export the model as a .3ds. close the original model and start a new session and import the .3ds model and you will notice for some reason the balls no longer intercept the glass.


                        http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/874/bowlballsgs4.jpg

                        http://www.solos-art.com

                        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                          HFM
                          last edited by 28 Apr 2008, 21:36

                          @solo said:

                          Try this:

                          Once the sequence has completed and all balls are in jar export the model as a .3ds. close the original model and start a new session and import the .3ds model and you will notice for some reason the balls no longer intercept the glass.

                          very nice render!

                          btw if you use V-ray you can just pause SP and render πŸ‘

                          http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9908/mannequinwipie9.png

                          makes it very easy ^^

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                            Curbs
                            last edited by 29 Apr 2008, 00:32

                            WOW! Those renderings are phenomenal! Great work guys.

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                              GreyHead
                              last edited by 29 Apr 2008, 04:42

                              Tried the pause and render approach, that works well. I'm not sure what I did in the render but it looks rather magical.

                              Bob

                              gumball_4b2.jpg

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                                GreyHead
                                last edited by 29 Apr 2008, 15:25

                                I solved the 'yellow' spots' I think; the one on top was just the play of light, those on the sides were contact points. I rendered the balls alone and the spots disappeared, shrunk then just a tiny bit and re-rendered and the spots are gone.

                                Bob

                                PS I started the export-import route but what I got back seemed to have all the hidden lines un-hidden so I abandoned it for the moment.

                                gumball_3a2.jpg

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