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    • EdsonE Offline
      Edson
      last edited by

      hi, there.

      i am posting two alternatives for the gatehouse of a 105-house condo i am designing. the one on top is the one i prefer: more direct, formally more intense, a "less is more" kinda thing. it is a concrete slab with planting over it.

      well, the clients judged it "poor". they showed me a picture of a gatehouse they like and the thing was pure Disney. so i tried something in wood with a sloping roof that would not embarass me and that they could like better. they also forced me to put a control booth in the middle of it while i prefered to rely on technology (a camara, a card slot, etc).

      well, as you may have noticed, tom's trees and other planting are all over the place.

      let me know what you think. i will send the new alternative to the clients tomorrow.
      CPV_Port_Jd_00.jpg
      CPV_PortCab_02.jpg

      edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
      http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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        alpro
        last edited by

        Edson, I also like the first one, it has a "classy" feel whereas the second one looks like the entrance to kids summer camp, not a bad design or model by far, just to me doesn't seem suitable for a plan of condos unless of course that plan is in some wooded area or mountains (highly unlikely), that's what I get from the second one.

        Mike

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          cheffey
          last edited by

          Edson,
          Do you think they would go for something in between? I definitely like the first one best. I blocked out something that is a bit of an ode to FLW, but I think you could make it more or less detailed. I was thinking this was kind of a compromise.
          (ran it through maxwell since i've got to do something with it) 😄
          gate2cheffey.jpg

          BROSRŌMAN BRÄUN

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          • EdsonE Offline
            Edson
            last edited by

            alpro,

            oddly enough, it is in the contryside and in a fairly wooded area. actually, it is in the wine-making area of the province i live and the site is surrounded by vineyards.

            cheffey,

            yes, i could definitely go in the direction you point. let us see what they think about what i produced. and thanks for the help.

            another reason for the first one to look better is the fact that this the way i usually design. my convictions are there whereas the other way is somehow forced.

            edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
            http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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            • DanielD Offline
              Daniel
              last edited by

              Edson, can you post an image of the condos, so we can see the entry in context?

              My avatar is an anachronism.

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              • EdsonE Offline
                Edson
                last edited by

                there you have it. this is an image of the area closest to the highway. the gatehouse is at the left bottom corner. on a diagonal from it, across the courts, is the clubhouse, which i shall be posting in a few days.
                aerea02.jpg

                edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                • EdsonE Offline
                  Edson
                  last edited by

                  2 more alternatives.
                  CPV_PortCabBB_06.jpg
                  CPV_PortCabCC_06.jpg

                  edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                  http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                  • B Offline
                    Baker518
                    last edited by

                    Edson, would an arbor type overhead be out of the question? Something more open and airey? You can still do the drape vinery and it might lend itself to the scenery a bit easier?

                    Don't worry about things you have no control over. Worry is a lack of Faith!

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                    • EdsonE Offline
                      Edson
                      last edited by

                      mike,

                      your suggestion is excellent. i actually began with an idea for the gatehouse that involved wood trusses that would be covered with vinery (not that far from what you are suggesting). that did not seem to them close enough to the model they had in mind. then came the radically modern one which they hated. now i am trying to give them a more familiar-looking structure.

                      the problem with the usual client is that you never know what you can really do. these ones seem to go for a specific look that reminds them of other condo gatehouses considered to be upscale. authenticity or cultural relevance are not on their agenda.

                      regards.

                      edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                      http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                      • B Offline
                        Baker518
                        last edited by

                        Edson

                        Atleast some of us are thinking along the same lines, oh well. It sounds like they are looking for a wrought iron gated community almost. That may be more to their liking, but then again, if they are looking for a modern look, maybe they want more metal and wood, less masonary. I'll keep thinking.....

                        Mike

                        Don't worry about things you have no control over. Worry is a lack of Faith!

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                        • EdsonE Offline
                          Edson
                          last edited by

                          they showed me a picture of what they like and it is horrible: a badly designed historicist thing. one thing i got from it: they want something with looms large, not something delicate and almost not there as my first attempt.

                          but i am submitting 4 or 5 alternatives with a traditional roof to see if they are more confortable with it.

                          edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                          http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                            Baker518
                            last edited by

                            What was the out come of your meeting with the group? I havent taken the time to ask?

                            Mike

                            Don't worry about things you have no control over. Worry is a lack of Faith!

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                            • EdsonE Offline
                              Edson
                              last edited by

                              hi mike,

                              thanks for asking. there has been no decision yet. i sent them a number of alternatives which they obviously did not like as they did not call to say otherwise. there will be a meeting soon.

                              i will let you know what comes of it.

                              regards.

                              edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                              http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                bubbalove
                                last edited by

                                Why is the free throw line on the basketball court behind the three point line?

                                "Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." - Churchill

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                                • jenujacobJ Offline
                                  jenujacob
                                  last edited by

                                  oh boy!! nothin ever gets past u does it bubba??? 😛 💚 💚

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                                  • EdsonE Offline
                                    Edson
                                    last edited by

                                    hi david,

                                    good point. and congrats on your observation skills.

                                    the explanation is quite simple: the court markings were quickly picked up from an old cad file drawn by a student of mine (who obviously did not care about its accuracy). although i played semi pro basketball for a while i totally overlooked that gross mistake. shame on me!

                                    regards.

                                    edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                                    http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                    • CraigDC Offline
                                      CraigD
                                      last edited by

                                      There's also a big "I" on the helicopter landing pad... 😉

                                      - CraigD
                                      

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                                        SchreiberBike
                                        last edited by

                                        @craigd said:

                                        There's also a big "I" on the helicopter landing pad... 😉

                                        - CraigD
                                        

                                        That's obvious. Helicopter must must start with an I in Portuguese, but only if the helicopter is sideways and helicopters should almost never be sideways in English or Portuguese. 😉 . Of course, they might start with an I if helicopters have Ignition switches.

                                        It's been quite a day. This seems hilarious to me, but I think it's because I'm in shock. 😒

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                                        • EdsonE Offline
                                          Edson
                                          last edited by

                                          @craigd said:

                                          There's also a big "I" on the helicopter landing pad... 😉

                                          - CraigD
                                          

                                          craig,

                                          it depends from where you come from. on the plan it is aligned to the most travelled route to this place.

                                          but you are right, "Hs" have a way of looking like "Is" if you do not approach them head on...

                                          and helicopter does not start with an "I" in portuguese: helicoptero is the word.

                                          cheers.

                                          edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                                          http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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