Operating systems...
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Ok, probably a good topic to get people talking in light of Microsofts' attempt at Vista...
Operating Systems; What is the future?
I have seen and read lately that the future of operating systems are changeing rapidly. Maybe an online operating system by 'you know who' by 2010
http://www.osnews.com/story.php/10096/A-Google-OS-by-2010/
Then there is Dreamlinux, [thanks Jon Wood] Unbuntu, BSD, GNU, etc etc...
So what works best? Do you stick to Windows or MAC or jump ship and try a freeby? I have considered converting to MAC purely due to 'Less crap' syndrome and after reading Edsons comments....
Would like to know your comments from a committed group of design professionals....
Thanks, Andrew
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Im downloading dreamlinux right now. I imagine the ability to remaster the dic will come in handy once I figure out how to get the things I want installed. Its a neat idea that you can customize a Live CD.
Thanks for the links, ive been interested in a new live version of linux to play with and this one takes the cake.
I just need to figure out how to install stuff properly... Im such a liunx noob.
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Good topic.
When I bought a new pc in the summer I probably should have listened to Edsun and Mike Lucey and got a mac. I think you all know my views on Vista, I'm sticking with it now, but I guess that it might have boosted Mac sales.
A couple of weeks ago I saw my old sony vaio laptop gathering dust in the corner. This laptop had had xp on it but lacks ram and I can't upgrade it anymore. I decided that this would be an excellent opportunity to give a distribution of linux a go. As I understand it, Linux operating systems are quite lean so older machines respond faster than they would with windows that is choc full of stuff. I like the whole open source freeware philosophy (and economy
) of Linux too.Being realistic however, I know nothing about linux or programming, I'm a strictly front end computer user. I just want to see if linux and open source software could be an easy to use, professional platform for CAD and 3d work. After a bit of digging around on the internet I came across Dreamlinux describing itself as geared towards 3d/design/multimedia and it's free.
I just downloaded the boot file, saved it to disc, stuck it in my old laptop, and a very nice o.s. appeared in about 2 minutes. Fairly easy to understand, it looks similar to mac osx. It had actually automatically loaded loads of software too: Blender, Gimpshop, Open office, Firefox etc. It also has Wine, a windows emulator that I've learnt can, with a bit of monkeying around run SU, I've asked in a few forums for a link to a tut. In general though it looks like SU might be unstable on linux, maybe Google will eventually release a proprietry linux version.
At the moment I am only running Dreamlinux from a disc, I haven't permanently installed it but it's certainly fast on my old machine.
In my spare time, I intend to try a few different linux distributions and linux design freeware. I might set up a blog about it, but I want to be objective and compare it with industry standard software and take into account ease of use and efficiency. I think Ubuntu and Freespire are worth looking at too. Whether linux could be the future o.s. I'm not qualified to say, but it is free.http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/index.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKcepdfm5C8 youtube vid of SU on linux.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=552050 forum discussion about getting SU working on Wine - seems that somebody has got it working well.
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I'm a noob too, I know nothing about linux in much the same way as I know nothing about the inner workings of windows. I'm just interested in taking a look.
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andrew,
one of the reasons i am more than ever for a switch to mac is that it now runs both mac OS and windows.
so if you needed to run some windows-only app you could have it installed in a windows partition. the software that allows the double system arrangement have been tested long enough for one to be certain that it works well.
actually, by buying a mac you would not be necessarily leaving windows behind, as you could still be able to run it on your mac. and for free, as bootcamp comes with mac OS now.
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Before taking any MAC plunge, you might want to read a different take on Leopard:
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paul,
this is something to think about. i am not sure things are as bad as he portrays them but one cannot deny leopard is not exempt of problems.
as for myself, in general i do not jump immediately to upgrade my applications or OS. instead, i wait until the bugs are ironed out. i install minor updates at once but not big ones like moving from tiger to leopard.
since i have heard some noise about issues with SU and other apps i am staying put until good news are in the horizon. i am running tiger 10.4.11 and am very happy with it.
regards,
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What program did you use to burn that ISO. Because ISO recorder (the only thing I can ever find on google) says its a DVD format ISO and only the vista version of this program does DVD images.
Its kinda irritating that i cant put a 700 MB file on a disc... When its made for a CD.
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Hi Squidge
The software I used is here http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm There is an xp version too. Look at this forum thread. This guy told me how to do it.
http://dream.wikidot.com/forum/t-30182/i-am-a-total-noob-please-help -
@unknownuser said:
Hi Squidge
The software I used is here http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm There is an xp version too. Look at this forum thread. This guy told me how to do it.
http://dream.wikidot.com/forum/t-30182/i-am-a-total-noob-please-helpthats what i was using too. Thats the only one i can find and it says its a DVD ISO and it isnt supported. I guess its off to view that forum.
EDIT: After looking at that forum the only thing the guy says is to use ISO Recorder... Which doesnt work for me for some reason. It says it is a DVD format ISO and according to the website the XP version doesnt support DVDs. Dont you have Vista anyways? That would be why it worked for you most likely if you do. But I need another program to burn this thing. Is the ISO actually meant for a DVD? Im sure its not since it IS called a Live CD not a Live DVD right...
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Yes I do have Vista. In your proprietry cd burning software, do you have an option to save files to disc as an "image". You know you have save as data, save as audio cd, is there also an option to save as image? That will create an iso file. Sounds weird but it works. Or you could buy an iso disc from dl, they are are less than 2 dollars.
I haven't given it much time yet but could get used to dl, although I'm not sure yet if it is simple enough for a learner. To navigate around the os seems very similar to osx but there are alot of files and areas that I have come across that I have no idea what they are for - I need to download and study the manual. It has really speeded up my old machine though and it recognised all the hardware, soundcards etc no problem.
I may try Ubuntu too, as its supposed to be easier to learn and I've found loads of tutorials to get SU working on Ubuntu.Although I haven't look at all of the apps that installed with dl, Gimpshop and Openoffice are a good find. Gimpshop is much more like PS than standard Gimp, and Open office, well put it this way I won't be buying any more Ms Office upgrades.
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@unknownuser said:
Yes I do have Vista. In your proprietry cd burning software, do you have an option to save files to disc as an "image". You know you have save as data, save as audio cd, is there also an option to save as image? That will create an iso file. Sounds weird but it works. Or you could buy an iso disc from dl, they are are less than 2 dollars.
I haven't given it much time yet but could get used to dl, although I'm not sure yet if it is simple enough for a learner. To navigate around the os seems very similar to osx but there are alot of files and areas that I have come across that I have no idea what they are for - I need to download and study the manual. It has really speeded up my old machine though and it recognised all the hardware, soundcards etc no problem.
I may try Ubuntu too, as its supposed to be easier to learn and I've found loads of tutorials to get SU working on Ubuntu.Although I haven't look at all of the apps that installed with dl, Gimpshop and Openoffice are a good find. Gimpshop is much more like PS than standard Gimp, and Open office, well put it this way I won't be buying any more Ms Office upgrades.
No such luck with the CD burning program I have. Its just HP Record Now from like 6 years ago with no updates (there are none) so Im out of luck for that. I know there are other programs to do this that are free because a long while ago when I went looking I found ISO Recorder on a list of like 10 other free ones. But now I cant find it, every search I do comes up with about a billion results that all lead to ISO Recorder.
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