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    • medeekM Offline
      medeek
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      Version 1.5.0 - 06.15.2020

      • Converted the "Draw Window" menu to HTML.

      http://design.medeek.com/resources/wallplugin/images/wall_su363_800.jpg

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • medeekM Offline
        medeek
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        Version 1.5.1 - 06.18.2020

        • Converted the "Draw Door" menu to HTML.
        • Fixed a bug with arched door sidelites.

        http://design.medeek.com/resources/wallplugin/images/wall_su364_800.jpg

        Not a glamorous update, but certainly a critical one. The three most important draw menus are now switched to full HTML.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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        • medeekM Offline
          medeek
          last edited by

          Version 1.5.2 - 06.21.2020

          • Added the ability to create, load and delete window presets within the Edit and Draw (HTML) Menus.

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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          • medeekM Offline
            medeek
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            Version 1.5.3 - 06.22.2020

            • Added the ability to create, load and delete door presets within the Edit and Draw (HTML) Menus.

            http://design.medeek.com/resources/wallplugin/images/wall_su365_800.jpg

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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            • jujuJ Offline
              juju
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              Any chance that updates / newer versions could be limited to once every fortnight, unless it fixes a mission critical flaw / error / issue?

              Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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              • medeekM Offline
                medeek
                last edited by

                The frequency of updates will probably decrease now that the plugin is maturing. I will also be moving my attention to the new Floor plugin in a few weeks.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • medeekM Offline
                  medeek
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                  When you first click the gable wall tool you will be presented with the following gable wall matrix:

                  https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/1/a/1a93e1702f0505ccea87e546778df491c75d3be9.jpeg

                  As you can see from the shading all wall types except for the "Gable" type have been grayed out. Initially I will make only this wall type available, then the "Shed" will be the next type I proceed to develop. The rectangular, gable and shed walls constitute the vast majority of wall geometries used in most construction however you can see there are quite a few other possibilities, so many in fact, that I quickly ran out of descriptive names to assign them.

                  Compared with a standard rectangular wall a gable wall with have the following additional parameters:

                  • Wall Height Left
                  • Wall Height Right
                  • Wall Pitch Left
                  • Wall Pitch Right

                  These four parameters will drive the location of the wall peak. In most situations the left and right values will be the same resulting in a symmetric gable wall however any combination of dissimilar pitches and wall heights will be possible which will then yield an asymmetric gable wall.

                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                  • medeekM Offline
                    medeek
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                    The wireframe preview will look like this:

                    https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/c/a/ca76d723d8aed6bf7cda5c0d0c315be9b6d31838.jpeg

                    In this case we have a symmetric gable wall.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • medeekM Offline
                      medeek
                      last edited by

                      An asymmetric gable wall:

                      gable_wall_preview1.gif

                      (click image to view animation)

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • medeekM Offline
                        medeek
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                        I'm going to have to dumb down some of the more general features/parameters found with rectangular walls as they apply to gable walls. For example with rectangular walls you can have walls connected at non-orthogonal corners. For gable walls this becomes very complicated and eventually I will probably allow it however for now I think it would be best to limit gable walls to ONLY orthogonal connections at the corners. If I don't do this it will be another 6 months of programming before I ever complete the gable wall module.

                        As I was testing asymmetric gable walls earlier today it became apparent that the intersection at the peak is a little more interesting with the asymmetric case. Also I will probably make the double studs positioned at the peak an optional setting in the global settings.

                        https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/d/9/d9211e9a193ca8581e45bd0dae7e7e12e542622a.jpeg

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                        • medeekM Offline
                          medeek
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                          Notice how the door falls beneath the gable wall peak:

                          https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/b/f/bfc5ff718508de782d6857f05d3811b7e1ee2eea.jpeg

                          In this situation the symbol or outline for the opening must be broken into two faces as shown.

                          There are a lot of little details like this that further complicate things having to do with gable walls, finding them all is a slow and meticulous process.

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                          • medeekM Offline
                            medeek
                            last edited by

                            Working on in-wall columns for gable walls:

                            https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/e/f/ef1d69b943c4f66ab90fc02052947260553effec.jpeg

                            A full height column just butts up to the underside of the top plate(s) and is cut at a bevel to match the pitch of the wall as shown.

                            A more interesting scenario is where the column is less than or more than the plate height and you might then have a beam pocket, in this case at the peak of the wall:

                            https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/c/4/c467393452544189ace09ad55b77b66efb134021.jpeg

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                            • medeekM Offline
                              medeek
                              last edited by

                              Looks like we have the mid-span blocking firing on all cylinders now:

                              https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/7/5/75c8b638fe56dffb1c0f6672da44a7beff51a592.jpeg

                              Notice the california corner still needs to be beveled where it abuts the top plate, I guess I missed that one earlier, I'm on it.

                              After that I will work on the cavity insulation.

                              I will release the gable wall to the public once I have completed the previous checklist, I will keep posting updates as I complete each item. The ETA could be in a as little as two days or it could be as far out as two weeks depending on if I run into any specific roadblocks along the way. You never know until you dig into the code.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                              • medeekM Offline
                                medeek
                                last edited by

                                I'm not sure if I've got this right and I need to make sure it is right.

                                Shown below is an exterior gable wall forming an outside (orthogonal) corner with an exterior rectangular wall, probably the most common configuration that will be encountered with gable walls.

                                https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/5/e/5ec4fc7e99d13883a459a61164247b4799772a52.jpeg

                                The gable wall terminates with an outside corner and the rectangular wall terminates with an inset outside corner. Does this look correct?

                                If we were to reverse the terminations (gable -> inset outside corner and rectangular -> outside corner) how then should the corner look?

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                • medeekM Offline
                                  medeek
                                  last edited by

                                  Gable wall with cavity insulation:

                                  https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/b/7/b7ca3f342f9b8340c4cc9b3934b3650215ca5e11.jpeg

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                  • medeekM Offline
                                    medeek
                                    last edited by

                                    Here is what I am proposing for the reverse case where the gable wall forms the inset outside corner:

                                    https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/9/9/99790630883abff50c08f3e06dc71e7739bb99f0.jpeg

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                    • pbacotP Offline
                                      pbacot
                                      last edited by

                                      That is different than the other corner of course in that the gable top plate is lower. This way you can put a rafter on with the typical birdsmouth. The two corners are not interchangeable because they require two different roof framing approaches.

                                      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                      • medeekM Offline
                                        medeek
                                        last edited by

                                        @pbacot said:

                                        That is different than the other corner of course in that the gable top plate is lower. This way you can put a rafter on with the typical birdsmouth. The two corners are not interchangeable because they require two different roof framing approaches.

                                        Correct, they are not meant to be interchangeable, two different approaches on how to frame up the gable wall. The second option is probably more common but I've seen it done both ways. The user will be able to use either method.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                        • medeekM Offline
                                          medeek
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                                          We’re not out of the woods yet:

                                          https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/c/0/c01898ad19dca65ceb7e5e8608788e8734b1feb2.jpeg

                                          The WSW series is field trimmable (to an incline), so we can set that up if this type of pre-manufactured shearwall is selected. I also need to add some extra logic in for the optional king studs and the symbol on top of the wall.

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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                                          • medeekM Offline
                                            medeek
                                            last edited by

                                            A WSW Simpson Strong-Wall trimmed to an incline to fit within a gable wall. I've been looking forward to this day ever since I utilized one of these shear wall panels within one of my own residential designs about four years ago.

                                            https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/8/6/86b5f4e5e45ad5137891cce300413cb1e2119a87.jpeg

                                            Note that only the WSW series can be field trimmed like this, at least to my knowledge. I need to do a bit more research into what Simpson recommends for an SSW installation when the top plate is inclined or if this is even possible. I suppose one could always install a trapezoidal block between the SSW and the top plate.

                                            Next I will look at the sheathing, cladding and gypsum and also sort out more of the details with the inset outside corner (termination).

                                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                                            design.medeek.com

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