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  • M Offline
    medeek
    last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 04:56

    Here are the parameters for the Post Module:

    BASIC OPTIONS:
    Post Type:
    Post Size:
    Lumber Species:
    Grade:
    Post Ply Qty.:
    Pressure Treated: Yes/No
    Post Rotation:
    Adv. Post Options: Yes/No

    ADVANCED OPTIONS:
    Wrap: Yes/No
    Wainscot: Yes/No
    Cap: Yes/No
    Base: Yes/No
    Astragal: Yes/No

    WRAP OPTIONS:
    Wrap Thickness:
    Wrap Air Gap:
    Wrap Material:

    WAINSCOT OPTIONS:
    Wainscot Thickness:
    Wainscot Air Gap:
    Wainscot Height:
    Wainscot Material:

    Wainscot Ledge: Yes/No
    Ledge Depth:
    Ledge Overhang:
    Ledge Material:

    CAP OPTIONS:
    Cap Thickness:
    Cap Depth:
    Cap Material:

    BASE OPTIONS:
    Base Thickness:
    Base Depth:
    Base Material:

    ASTRAGAL OPTIONS:
    Astragal Thickness:
    Astragal Depth:
    Astragal Height:
    Astragal Material:

    The basic options will be very similar to the beam module with the option for steel columns as well as wood (eg. lumber, timber, SCL, glulam).

    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
    Medeek Engineering Inc
    design.medeek.com

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    • M Offline
      medeek
      last edited by 7 Mar 2020, 10:07

      Version 1.3.0 - 03.07.2020

      • Fixed a critical bug with custom materials that was caused by the change in the location of the plugin's data sub-folder.

      *** CRITICAL BUG FIX ***
      If you recently downloaded version 1.2.9 of the plugin then you will want to upgrade to this version to resolve an issue with custom materials in the Material Library. I highly suggest that everyone upgrade to this latest release at your earliest convenience.

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • M Offline
        medeek
        last edited by 8 Mar 2020, 08:00

        I've been thinking about how to best handle levels or floors of a structure lately. I'm thinking about assigning an additional parameter (that can be user edited) which assigns a given wall assembly to a particular user defined level or floor. Another way of handling this is in conjunction with layer assignment. Everyone's workflow is a little different so I think it is important that if I provide certain options I make them truly optional. In other words the layer assignment tool could optionally assign the assemblies to a particular layer/tag.

        As a side note SU 2020 now calls layers -> tags. I'm not really happy with that change, I don't see why the word layer or layers was a bad or incorrect term within the context of SketchUp. Honestly, tags is even more confusing in my opinion. For now I will not be changing my terminology within the plugin, I will still be calling them layers, everyone knows what I'm talking about. If the term "tags" actually sticks then in a year or so I may consider updating my terminology, but I'm going to let this one percolate for a while.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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        • M Offline
          medeek
          last edited by 8 Mar 2020, 08:17

          First look at the HTML draw menu for the Post module:

          https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/2/1/213572d5f8abd98743fa7928f11241af0cd46c5b.jpeg

          This module is relatively simple however since there are so many advanced options there is still quite a bit of coding to do.

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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          • M Offline
            medeek
            last edited by 15 Mar 2020, 11:24

            Version 1.3.1 - 03.15.2020

            • Added a "Style4" door hardware option (Lever & Deadbolt) to the door module.
            • Fixed a bug with the door opening tool for man doors.

            http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su659_800.jpg

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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            • M Offline
              medeek
              last edited by 31 Mar 2020, 14:20

              First look at some posts created with the Post module:

              https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/a/d/ad1407e19b0f9014c9b3da8823f963bad5c4844d.jpeg

              The basic module is up and running I just need to spend a few more hours on the advanced options (ie. wrap, wainscot, base, cap and astragal) and then this module will be a welcome addition to the plugin.

              View model here:

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              3D Warehouse

              3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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              (3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • M Offline
                medeek
                last edited by 31 Mar 2020, 20:08

                Version 1.3.2 - 03.31.2020

                • Added the ability to draw and edit free standing columns with the Beams/Column Toolset.

                http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su661_800.jpg

                View model here:

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                3D Warehouse

                3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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                (3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • M Offline
                  medeek
                  last edited by 2 Apr 2020, 16:59

                  Version 1.3.2b - 04.02.2020

                  • Added an indexing parameter for posts to the General tab of the global settings.
                  • Added the built-in materials (red brick) for post wrap and wainscot and (concrete) for post ledges.
                  • Added labels and callouts for all post types.

                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su662_800.jpg

                  I've also switched to the new .rbe encryption method for the plugin which effectively prevents it from running on SketchUp 2015 or earlier. I was more than content to stick with the .rbs encryption method but the SketchUp extension signing page has removed this encryption method and only the .rbe method is currently offered.

                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                  • M Offline
                    medeek
                    last edited by 3 Apr 2020, 14:43

                    Tutorial 10 - Posts (14:24 min.)

                    Round or Greek/Roman columns would also be a nice addition to this module but I'm not entirely sure on the construction or geometry of them. They typically have a gradual taper and then the top (capital) always has some interesting geometry (Doric, Ionic, Corinthian):

                    https://mcgrawimages.buildingmedia.com/CE/CE_images/2014/dec_Crown-Columns-5.jpg

                    https://st.hzcdn.com/simgs/d34177fe0df2a9e2_4-9388/home-design.jpg

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                      pbacot
                      last edited by 3 Apr 2020, 17:17

                      Yeah, the classical orders are pretty involved. But people now buy columns and install them with little regard to the details or proportions. Some will be happy with what you can come up with in a parametric plugin, but others will probably just find or model their own version. You'll find Corinthian and composite columns most challenging with the floral details and required poly count. Good for you, if you going to tackle this as well!

                      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                      • M Offline
                        medeek
                        last edited by 3 Apr 2020, 21:12

                        I'm always up for a bit of a challenge so after digging around on the internet for awhile and reading some documents provided by some of my mentors here is what I have for classical columns:

                        1.) The diminution ratio seems to be 5/6 for most columns that are 15ft of less. I will label this ratio as "m".

                        2.) There is a height to diameter ratio however I think I should leave it up to the user to specify whatever diameter they chose for any particular height however I could suggest the classical (recommended) diameter for a given height.

                        3.) If we let the base diameter be "d" then the entasis radial difference "E" is given by:
                        E = d(1-m)/2.

                        4.) Let h = height of the shaft. The entasis (or diminution) begins at a height of 1/3h. The entasis is not a linear reduction in diameter but rather follows a curved profile with the radius of curvature tangent to the lower cylindrical portion of the shaft.

                        5.) The radius of the entasis curvature is given by r[sub:3w5bl8ej]e[/sub:3w5bl8ej] = 2h[sup:3w5bl8ej]2[/sup:3w5bl8ej]/9E + E/2.

                        6.) The angle of the sweep of the arc is given by theta = asin(2h/3r[sub:3w5bl8ej]e[/sub:3w5bl8ej])

                        The above derivation and observations should then give me enough information to be able to properly draw the shaft of any classical column. The base and capital however are a whole nother story.

                        truss_su663_800.jpg

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                        • M Offline
                          medeek
                          last edited by 3 Apr 2020, 21:32

                          For the base and capital of a classical column I think it would be easiest just to pre-model some standard configurations and then have the plugin insert the components rather than try to draw them from scratch. Since both of these elements are merely a function of the column diameter the plugin can easily scale them to the correct size upon insertion... problem solved.

                          Now I just need some decent (but low poly) ionic and corinthian capitals, if such a thing is possible.

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                          • pbacotP Offline
                            pbacot
                            last edited by 3 Apr 2020, 23:08

                            Sometimes people leave the base off so you might consider that, especially for Tuscan column.

                            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                              medeek
                              last edited by 4 Apr 2020, 10:10

                              I will provide an additional option called the “classical option”.

                              This will allow for classical (round) columns, the parameters will initially be:

                              Classical Order: Tuscan, Doric, Ionic, Corinthian, Composite
                              Diameter: (12" default)
                              Capital: Yes/No
                              Base: Yes/No
                              Material:

                              At some point I should also provide the option for a fluted column and additional parameters for a pedestal. Yes, this is a bit of a rabbit hole, but really not as deep as initially thought it might be. I’ll start simple first and then incrementally add more features as requested.

                              I’m making the assumption that all of these classical columns are non-structural (ie. FRP) so the standard wood or steel posts will still be drawn/installed inside of the classical column.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                                medeek
                                last edited by 4 Apr 2020, 13:41

                                First look at a classical column with the updated menu items:

                                https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/4/0/4086af96ceabbcd735c2bffeb6f6433bae749e84.jpeg

                                The diminution/entasis is the correct 5/6 ratio and it follows an arc/curve tangent to the lower cylindrical section of the column. I've created the arc with eight segments which seems to be more than adequate (could probably get away with six). I have my own smoothing routine so the tangent edge at the 1/3 point on the column is not shown.

                                Now I just need to come up with some proper bases and capitals for the different orders and we will have some classical columns available.

                                I could hollow out the interior but I don't see a big need for that since each manufacturer is going to have their own wall thickness, and it just adds to the overall polycount. Comments or thoughts?

                                I suppose I could make the diminution ratio also user driven but for now I'll just hardcode in the 5/6 ratio since this seems to be the most common.

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                  medeek
                                  last edited by 5 Apr 2020, 15:14

                                  First look at a Doric Column with both the capital and base enabled:

                                  https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/4/7/47eb77808acabda4abd80a85572c04ea977f5d36.jpeg

                                  To my knowledge this is the only SketchUp plugin that allows one to parametrically create classical columns, I'm pretty excited about this.

                                  The components utilized for the capital and base are within the components sub-folder of the plugin and can easily be replaced with a users own file if so desired.

                                  For my geometry I've been studying the references and drawings found on this site:

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                                  THE CLASSICAL ORDERS OF ARCHITECTURE

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                                  (theclassicalorders.com)

                                  This website has very detailed explanations and drawings of the various orders, which I have found to be extremely helpful.

                                  The Ionic, Corinthian and Composite capitals are very intricate and complex 3D geometries. I'm not even going to attempt to draw those myself, even though I can program plugins my modeling skills are just not up to par. I think I can rely on the 3D warehouse and some of you power users to point me in the right direction as to what would be the most accurate and low poly model that I can incorporate into the plugin for each of these orders.

                                  View model here:

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                                  3D Warehouse

                                  3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                    pbacot
                                    last edited by 5 Apr 2020, 19:00

                                    That IS exciting! Entasis and all.

                                    MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                    • M Offline
                                      medeek
                                      last edited by 5 Apr 2020, 22:04

                                      Version 1.3.3 - 04.05.2020

                                      • Added a classical column option to the post module: Tuscan, Doric

                                      http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su666_800.jpg

                                      Once I have capital/base geometry for the three other column types (ionic, corinthian, composite) I will add them to the module as well.

                                      View model here:

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                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                        medeek
                                        last edited by 6 Apr 2020, 19:13

                                        The rest of the bases were fairly easy to generate (based on the previous website information given):

                                        View model here:

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                                        I'm only missing the capitals for the ionic, corinthian and composite columns.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                          medeek
                                          last edited by 6 Apr 2020, 22:19

                                          The corinthian capital is a little bit heavy for my liking but I guess that is the price you pay for that degree of intricacy.

                                          https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/5/3/538c64727af33295390cb2180f86b2ef39285b2a.jpeg

                                          View model here:

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                                          I probably need to modify that capital component a bit further and see if I can shrink down the polygon count.

                                          I also need to provide two additional variants of the Tuscan and Doric capitals which include the astragal directly below the capital.

                                          My model for the corinthian capital is based off of the model drawn by Karlfucious (found in the 3D warehouse). However, I modified the model extensively as well as redrew the lower fillets and torus to bring it in line with the correct aspect ratio for this type of capital.

                                          Reference model here:

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                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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