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    medeek
    last edited by 1 Jun 2019, 07:29

    Due to the complications caused by roof returns I had to jump through a few more hoops to get the soffit and fascia (and roof cladding extension) fully functional for common trusses:

    http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su420_800.jpg

    http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su421_800.jpg

    http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su422_800.jpg

    Unfortunately, I still cannot release these latest upgrades to the public because in changing up the advanced options module I may have possibly broken other truss types.

    Tomorrow I will need to do some thorough checking to make sure the other truss types: attic, scissor, monopitch, cathedral etc... are working correctly and can now work with the soffit and fascia module.

    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
    Medeek Engineering Inc
    design.medeek.com

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      medeek
      last edited by 1 Jun 2019, 07:44

      View model here:

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      3D Warehouse

      3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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        medeek
        last edited by 1 Jun 2019, 07:57

        Probably another solid day with soffit and fascia (extending it to many of the other truss types) and then I will be back on the rafter module and pushing hard to get something pulled together for secondary and complex roofs. I still need to come back to the drip edge but I think it can wait until I have the more important stuff dealt with. The nice thing about drip edge is that it will not affect other geometry or modules, it will just be an add-on, much less complicated.

        In the process of revamping the gutter and roof returns module in order to handle soffit and fascia I did manage to turn up a few additional bugs which I have addressed. Its always nice to kill two birds with one stone.

        As the complexity and depth of the plugins have increased I am finding it more difficult to juggle all of the plugins at once. Lately, I have given the other plugins a rest (except for critical bugs or minor fixes) and then dived deep into the current plugin of interest. At some point it would nice if I could bring on additional help so that development is ongoing with each plugin on a daily basis.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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          medeek
          last edited by 1 Jun 2019, 23:38

          Quite a number of fixes to the attic truss module. The floor sheathing option is also now exposed in the attic truss edit menu.

          http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su423_800.jpg

          Full Return:

          http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su424_800.jpg

          Roof labels and callouts also added to this truss type.

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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            medeek
            last edited by 2 Jun 2019, 17:46

            Soffit and Fascia now available for Scissor and Cathedral trusses:

            http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su425_800.jpg

            http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su426_800.jpg

            I've also taken the time to make the cathedral truss type parametric (edit menu).

            I only need to look at the monopitch truss edit menu and address a few changes to it and then I will be ready to push all of these changes out to a new version.

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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              medeek
              last edited by 3 Jun 2019, 06:46

              Version 2.4.3 - 06.02.2019

              • Enabled soffit and fascia for the following truss types: common, attic, scissor, monopitch, cathedral.
              • Enabled a roof cladding extension parameter for truss roofs.
              • Enabled the "Edit Truss Assembly" function for all cathedral trusses (imperial and metric units).
              • Added the floor sheathing option to the attic truss edit menu.
              • Parameter change highlighting enabled for truss roof edit menus.
              • Roof returns (full and hip) enabled for monopitch trusses.
              • Addressed some minor bugs with the truss gutter module.
              • Soffit and Fascia added to truss roofs with full or hip returns.
              • Labels and callouts added to attic, scissor, and cathedral trusses.
              • Added the soffit box extension parameter for truss roofs.

              Monopitch variants:

              http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su427_800.jpg

              http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su428_800.jpg

              http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su429_800.jpg

              http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su430_800.jpg

              This was a fairly substantial upgrade with lots of changes. I wrapped up quite a few hours of testing today but there will probably be something that gets away from me, there always is.

              Now its time to go after the much larger fish... Complex and secondary roofs.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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                medeek
                last edited by 3 Jun 2019, 21:59

                ***** The Medeek Truss extension will no longer officially support SketchUp 2015 and SketchUp 2016, only SketchUp 2017 and newer will be supported. *****

                I have reluctantly made this decision based on the additional time and effort I am spending trying to put in place additional logic (band aids) within the code base to ensure that the plugin maintains compatibility with these older versions of SketchUp. At some point it is simply no longer worth the effort.

                If you are plugin user currently running one of these older versions of SketchUp, I would strongly suggest that you upgrade to ensure continued operation of the extension. The current version of the extension will probably still work with either SketchUp version however moving forward there will be no guarantee of compatibility.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                  pbacot
                  last edited by 3 Jun 2019, 23:20

                  The angled soffit (soffit applied parallel to rafters at both low eaves and gable eaves is a common feature of ca 1900 houses out here in California, farm houses and Victorians.

                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                    juju
                    last edited by 4 Jun 2019, 10:14

                    @medeek said:

                    ***** The Medeek Truss extension will no longer officially support SketchUp 2015 and SketchUp 2016, only SketchUp 2017 and newer will be supported. *****

                    It's probably a good idea to keep a downloadable file of the last compatible version available for those that are still running the now unsupported SU versions?

                    Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                      medeek
                      last edited by 4 Jun 2019, 21:10

                      Looks like Justin has featured the plugin in a demo of Quantifier Pro:

                      It would have been better if he had turned on the gable truss option in the global settings but regardless I appreciate the featuring of the plugin.

                      Justin does a nice job with those videos.

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                        medeek
                        last edited by 6 Jun 2019, 01:05

                        Working on the edit menu for the shed rafter roof. If the user enables soffit and fascia for this roof type I will need a small routine that checks the rafter depth and trims the upper rafter tails if the rafters are deeper than the barge rafter (rake board):

                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su431_800.jpg

                        For the lower end rafter tails the soffit cut parameter takes care of this problem, however with an angled soffit I will need a similar routine for the lower rafter tails as previously discussed in a post a few days back.

                        Roof returns (rake, hip and full) have not been enabled for rafter roofs yet, that is something that will need to be setup for this module as the truss module already has this feature.

                        A number of other upgrades for this roof type as well: Front and Back gable overhangs, Roof cladding extension.

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                          medeek
                          last edited by 6 Jun 2019, 03:45

                          Version 2.4.4 - 06.05.2019

                          • Enabled soffit and fascia for shed rafter roofs.
                          • Enabled a roof cladding extension parameter for shed rafter roofs.
                          • Enabled the "Edit Roof Assembly" function for shed rafter roofs (imperial and metric units).
                          • Added the option in the shed rafter roof edit menu to specify a separate front and back overhang length.
                          • Shed roofs auto-trim upper rafter tails as required when soffit is specified.

                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su432_800.jpg

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                            medeek
                            last edited by 6 Jun 2019, 18:20

                            Version 2.4.4b- 06.06.2019

                            • Enabled gable and angled soffit & fascia for shed rafter roofs.

                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su433_800.jpg

                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su434_800.jpg

                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su435_800.jpg

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                              medeek
                              last edited by 8 Jun 2019, 00:05

                              Version 2.4.5 - 06.07.2019

                              • Fixed a minor bug with the shed rafter roof module.
                              • Enabled gable and angled soffit & fascia for all gable rafter roofs.

                              http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su436_800.jpg

                              http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su437_800.jpg

                              View model here:

                              Link Preview Image
                              3D Warehouse

                              3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

                              favicon

                              (3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                                medeek
                                last edited by 8 Jun 2019, 00:30

                                I've beaten soffit and fascia to death but there still remains more to be done.

                                The gable and angled option still need to be made available with the truss module. Additionally I have not yet enabled soffit and fascia for hip truss sets as well as other more exotic truss types.

                                Note that soffit and fascia can only be enabled once the roof or truss assembly is created (within the edit menu). This is on purpose. Only those truss or rafter families that have the edit function available can have soffit and fascia enabled.

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                  medeek
                                  last edited by 8 Jun 2019, 21:22

                                  Version 2.4.6 - 06.08.2019

                                  • Enabled gable and angled soffit & fascia for common, attic, scissor, and cathedral trusses.
                                  • Enabled gable and angled soffit & fascia for monopitch trusses.

                                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su438_800.jpg

                                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su439_800.jpg

                                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su440_800.jpg

                                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su441_800.jpg

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                    medeek
                                    last edited by 8 Jun 2019, 23:36

                                    Version 2.4.6b - 06.08.2019

                                    • Added the ability to import materials directly from the model within the Custom Material Libary/Manager in the global settings.

                                    This update was per customer request. The direct material import feature previously was added to the Wall plugin but was missing from the Truss plugin.

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                      medeek
                                      last edited by 9 Jun 2019, 18:10

                                      This is the first new icon for the main Truss plugin toolbar in quite some time:

                                      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su_menu_active.jpg

                                      The complex roof icon/tool will allow the user to pick between either a truss or rafter complex roof (first HTML menu), then the user will select a horizontal (closed) face which will be used to determine the perimeter of the roof. Before the user selects the outline face they can utilize the complex roof draw menu (HTML menu #2) to adjust settings (ie. overhang, pitch, sheathing, cladding etc...)

                                      The draw menu will stay open and the tool active until closed or space bar is pressed. So multiple complex roofs can be created one after another with the given settings. Similar to the wall plugin I will probably implement a system of roof presets so the user can quickly jump to a specific configuration.

                                      My latest code for menus in the Electrical plugin is my cleanest and most advanced code for dealing with interactive HTML menus. I will be borrowing heavily from this plugin initially to setup my basic tool and menu systems.

                                      I will also at some point allow the user to select the points that define the roof outline rather than selecting a face but for the time being I'm going to keep it simple and just allow the face selection method for now.

                                      I am starting with the complex rafter roof first. The truss variant will be even more troublesome and problematic so its best to cut my teeth on the rafter variant and see how far I can take it.

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                        medeek
                                        last edited by 10 Jun 2019, 01:03

                                        The first menu will use the following two images to select either a rafter or truss roof:

                                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/COMPLEX_ROOF_RAFTER_240.png

                                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/COMPLEX_ROOF_TRUSS_240.png

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                          medeek
                                          last edited by 11 Jun 2019, 02:02

                                          First look at the initial selection menu:

                                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su442_800.jpg

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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