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    • andybotA Offline
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      @stinkie said:

      Before I forget: Mar-a-Lago membership fees have doubled to $200,000 following Trump's election. That alone should get people thinking, I feel.

      Plenty of people are thinking (and fuming) but the ones with power to do anything (controlling party in Congress) are perfectly happy sitting on their hands. (Or going after the real culprits: Sid the Science Kid)

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      • StinkieS Offline
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        Yeah ... currently the GOP's looking the other way. That won't last, though. It's just a matter of time before Trump becomes a liability to the Republicans, rather than an asset.

        €50 says Trump won't be president for 4 years.

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        • soloS Offline
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          @stinkie said:

          :lol:

          Yeah ... currently the GOP's looking the other way. That won't last, though. It's just a matter of time before Trump becomes a liability to the Republicans, rather than an asset.

          €50 says Trump won't be president for 4 years.

          No way I'll take that bet.

          With all the attention on how intertwined the Trump campaign was with Russia I fear they will either create a false flag or start a war in order to distract attention.

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          • StinkieS Offline
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            That won't fly this time around, I think. The whole world is keeping eyes on the White House like never before.

            I raise the stakes to € 500.000. Plus my house! And the kid. 😎

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            • soloS Offline
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              @stinkie said:

              That won't fly this time around, I think. The whole world is keeping eyes on the White House like never before.

              I raise the stakes to € 500.000. Plus my house! And the kid. 😎

              lol,I cannot match that bet even if I wanted to take it, also I'm done with kids, they finally out the house.

              Stay tuned to what a Trump and Netanyahu can start, I believe Iran is the distraction they are after.

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              • StinkieS Offline
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                I can only hope they're not that stupid/irresponsible. A war with Iran would be disastrous.

                One would almost feel nostalgic for the Decider.

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                • Mike AmosM Offline
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                  More concerned with the Kims and their stupidity. They keep pushing like a teenager wanting to be up to all sorts without limit. THIS will be the crunch point as the US and PRC will be pushed into some kind of strike. Soon.

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                  • jujuJ Offline
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                    @mike amos said:

                    More concerned with the Kims and their stupidity. They keep pushing like a teenager wanting to be up to all sorts without limit. THIS will be the crunch point as the US and PRC will be pushed into some kind of strike. Soon.

                    I just saw that Kim Jong-un's half-brother (Kim Jong-nam) has been murdered, suspiciously utelizing typical North Korean methods.

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                    • Mike LuceyM Offline
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                      I read that Trump should have told Flynn to apologise and Pence to shut up! He did neither! Its only a matter of time now before the Deep State have him up for impeachment.

                      As one prominent US commentator said, the only way for the US people to take back control of government is via revolution! I feel he might well be correct in his assessment as the military / security industrial complex is not likely to forfeit their $T budget any time soon.

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                      • Mike AmosM Offline
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                        The USAF is pushing for another seven fighter squadrons and the US navy is only able to complete deployments by stripping returning ships of spare parts. The issue of refits for surface ships and submarines is dire with refits delayed by years which then pushes these refit costs skyward. This cannot continue but the defence contractors and procurement divisions have wasted trillions of dollars already. Just like our governments make waste to make profits and nice little earners for senior management. Did anyone hear of the B-52 that lost an engine in flight? http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a24627/engine-falls-off-b-52-bomber-in-flight/ .
                        I actually think the Trumpster got the military angle right, too much waste of money that SHOULD go to other recipient purposes but I agree with Mike, the military senior brass and the defence contractors will be looking to take Trumpster down as soon as they can.
                        To those who think things should go back to the pre Trump ways, a weak US is a bad thing for all concerned as a insular US will not only remove a defence backbone from NATO, it will leave Europe vulnerable too, seeing that we are leaving the EU and the rest do not pay their way in defence terms. If you look at the subsidies given to the defence companies in the rest of europe, why is it that the UK alone abides by the EU which states these companies should NOT be subsidised? Why is it that the french government shored up the french car companies against an EU ruling, and got away with it? The UK would not be given that opportunity. Rover is NOT the only UK car company to go down the swannee river.

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                        • Mike LuceyM Offline
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                          @mike amos said:

                          To those who think things should go back to the pre Trump ways, a weak US is a bad thing for all concerned as a insular US will not only remove a defence backbone from NATO, it will leave Europe vulnerable too, seeing that we are leaving the EU and the rest do not pay their way in defence terms.

                          I don't think Trump intended to make the USA insular. Did he not say that he wanted to make it more of a trading nation rather than a military force or words along these lines?

                          Maybe I am naive, but since the break up of the USSR was there a need for NATO? From my reading the USSR was broken trying to keep up a military budget that matched the USA. They couldn't and this is why things went pear shaped for them. This now appears to be happening to the USA with its $20T budget black hole only backed by the Petro Dollar which they will defend until the last and have been doing over the past 20 years.

                          The USA needs to get out of the downward spiral that they were placed in by Tricky Dickie and Henry K and get back to basics, which they are very good at!

                          The so called reasoning for NATO, from what I can see, is that it was put in place to counter the communist threat but Stalin got rid of the communist branch that wanted total global communism and seemed to be content with the USSR's size as it was.

                          Again, the EU was mainly set up to keep peace between Germany and France also England to some extent. This objective is now obsolete! The Common Market trading arrangement (EEC) worked well but the idea of a United States of Europe is a non-runner and we are now seeing this to be the case.

                          @mike amos said:

                          If you look at the subsidies given to the defence companies in the rest of europe, why is it that the UK alone abides by the EU which states these companies should NOT be subsidised? Why is it that the french government shored up the french car companies against an EU ruling, and got away with it? The UK would not be given that opportunity. Rover is NOT the only UK car company to go down the swannee river.

                          The UK should never have agreed to more than EEC membership. That would have been enough for them to continue as a productive country. However when these self preservationist politicians get involved, they do what they do best, create more power for themselves and their masters, not their constituents.

                          The quicker the Sheeple wake up and embrace Direct Democracy the better things will be for all. Oh!, not all, the Globalist Masters wouldn't be happy .... too bad about that! They will have to make a living of their own sweat like the rest of us!

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                          • pbacotP Offline
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                            I think you touched the main reason nothing's going to work, Mike. It's the entrenched military-industrial complex. Though our laws should prevent it, the profiteers run the government. They have armies of lawyers, lobbyists, and accountants and whole corporations to work 24/7 running over the rest of us. "We" (those who care <50% of the electorate, probably <25% of the total population --counting disenfranchised) vote, and might write our congressman or march on Saturday morning. There's no contest.

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                            • StinkieS Offline
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                              This too, one cannot make up.

                              The president of the US, arguably the most powerful man in the world, relies on Fox News for international intel.


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                              • PixeroP Offline
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                                Yeah, and no one here in Sweden knows what he is talking about.

                                This is what really happened in Sweden that night: http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/Vn17J

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                                • StinkieS Offline
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                                  • Mike LuceyM Offline
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                                    Jeeeez, Stinkie, that Border Wall IKEA flatpack looks to be a 'one man job' as it comes with just one screw turn 😲

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                                    • jujuJ Offline
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                                      @mike lucey said:

                                      Jeeeez, Stinkie, that Border Wall IKEA flatpack looks to be a 'one man job' as it comes with just one screw turn 😲

                                      It's all about responsibility and job security... πŸ˜‰

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                                      • Mike AmosM Offline
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                                        That wall is unlikely to keep anyone out. A short paddle and they are in. Are they going to follow the Russian and East German example and put minefields in place? They are going to have to force the issue in the courts by tracking down and forcibly removing every single illegal before a message gets through that it will not be tolerated. Not an easy thing to do. What then for children of illegals that are born in the USA? Technically they have a right to stay. This will run and run.

                                        PS, not your wall Stinkie, the real one. Yours looks more reasonable cost wise and just as tough.

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                                          • StinkieS Offline
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                                            @mike amos said:

                                            That wall is unlikely to keep anyone out.

                                            True. It'll prove an effective way of wasting vast amounts of money, though.

                                            @mike amos said:

                                            PS, not your wall Stinkie, the real one. Yours looks more reasonable cost wise and just as tough.

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