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    davidmreinbold
    last edited by 6 Jan 2016, 22:02

    Hi Pilou & driven

    I have found the files now... they were under a different path in the user / roaming section

    I never really worked out why there are to storage paths for Sketchup extensions i.e. roaming or within Sketchup... hence my inconsistency with installing every extension in the same place.

    Thanks for your patience guys. πŸ‘

    Cheers

    David

    @pilou said:

    And the search engine of Windows refind nothing on the 2015 where you have vizualizer working?

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      willanie
      last edited by 6 Jan 2016, 22:23

      Hi pbacot,

      I noticed your pool water image had lots of fireflies ... the small bright white dots ... which means you must be using the Visualizer enhanced mode.
      If you didn't already know there is a despeckle option which will remove them. They will however, return eventually if you let it render for many hours.
      See attached image for how to turn on despeckle.


      ENH_crop.png

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        alexandercheyns
        last edited by 15 Feb 2016, 19:21

        The tutorial from visualizer shows a shaded car as png without background. However I keep having a gray background to all my renders. I've tried adjusting the background in styles and also checked the transparency button in visualizer but still I get gray backgrounds. Love visualizer sad to see it go

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          willanie
          last edited by 17 Feb 2016, 13:42

          Hi alexandercheyns,

          Visualizer does not support the "styles" features of Sketchup. It always put a procedural sky in the background. I assume you are saving the image in png format. Pardon me if this is obvious but the alpha channel of that image file allows you to layer the foreground on to another background. You do need some compositing software like Photoshop or Gimp to specify the new background. Perhaps you could share an example rendered image.

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            pilou
            last edited by 17 Feb 2016, 14:07

            @unknownuser said:

            You do need some compositing software like Photoshop or Gimp to specify the new background

            Why not put a "false background" image in Sketchup it self ? πŸ˜‰

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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              willanie
              last edited by 17 Feb 2016, 17:07

              Hi pilou,

              Good thought but AFIK this feature doesn't exist in Visualizer.

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                pilou
                last edited by 17 Feb 2016, 18:15

                Something like this or anything else! (cylindric, hemispheric etc... πŸ˜‰
                And input project any image on this sort of surface as background!

                http://wiki.blender.org/uploads/2/2a/6.3._03.png

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                  willanie
                  last edited by 18 Feb 2016, 07:46

                  Hi Pilou,

                  I didn't understand what you meant by "false background". In fact your "psyche" geometry would produce a nice limbo background with a complex shadow casting of the foreground object.

                  alexandercheyns,

                  Just to help clarify what you are asking about, can you post a link to the Visualizer tutorial you referred to. I assume it has something to do with the alpha channel and png files.

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                    pilou
                    last edited by 18 Feb 2016, 10:16

                    Maybe i don't understant the first original problem! πŸ˜„
                    I don't ever understand why there is not always an image with a problem asked! πŸ˜„

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                      pilou
                      last edited by 19 Feb 2016, 12:02

                      Have you an image of what is wanted ?

                      Does this resolve the problem?
                      If i put an image on this face, no shadows on it! πŸ˜„

                      no_shadow_here.jpg

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                        willanie
                        last edited by 19 Feb 2016, 17:19

                        Hi pilou,

                        Im pretty sure the original request was related to layering with an alpha channel but until the person chimes back it remains a mystery.

                        Your diagram is very neat. What software do you use to make such illustrations ... sketchup?

                        Also the cast shadow toggle is an interesting hidden gem in Visualizer which can be used to emit light from geometry in a limited fashion. It can take quite a while to render a noise free image. Here is a test image.


                        neon effect receive shadow off

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                          pilou
                          last edited by 19 Feb 2016, 18:25

                          @unknownuser said:

                          Your diagram is very neat. What software do you use to make such illustrations ... sketchup?

                          Sketchup + Visualizer + Key "PrintScreen"
                          and copy the screen inside my old PhotoImpact 1992-2000!!!
                          (the program that I have only bought)for the arrows and text or any retouch!
                          This last one was terrific : we can even make web site with it! πŸ’š
                          The incredible thing is that quasi all functions are working today! 😎
                          Some times i add effects with the free Fotor! πŸ˜„
                          All that take less 5 minutes! πŸ˜„

                          Frenchy Pilou
                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                          My Little site :)

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                            masterpaul
                            last edited by 10 Mar 2016, 23:19

                            @willanie said:

                            Hi pilou,

                            Im pretty sure the original request was related to layering with an alpha channel but until the person chimes back it remains a mystery.

                            Your diagram is very neat. What software do you use to make such illustrations ... sketchup?

                            Also the cast shadow toggle is an interesting hidden gem in Visualizer which can be used to emit light from geometry in a limited fashion. It can take quite a while to render a noise free image. Here is a test image.

                            Woah I never knew that.

                            Ok I tested it out. Deselecting "Cast shadow" does nothing. However if you deselect "Receive Shadows" then that component starts to emit light.

                            http://i.imgur.com/6xF91Lz.png

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                              willanie
                              last edited by 10 Mar 2016, 23:34

                              oops sorry about that I meant receive shadow ... which lets the sun and sky light effect the object regardless of any other geometry in the scene
                              the sun/sky time of day and orientation relative to the sun still effects the brightness which makes it not quite a pure emmisive surface but still kind of neat

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                                pbacot
                                last edited by 11 Mar 2016, 00:20

                                I think Pilou means a sort of billboard backdrop. His example seems to also show lighting objects which, of course don't apply. Far easier to add the background image in PS or GIMP, because in SU you are dependent on the sun lighting the backdrop and the limits of image resolution.

                                Attached is an example using Oli's tree line texture backdrop, as a billboard object in SketchUp.


                                VIZ_0095.png

                                MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                  pbacot
                                  last edited by 11 Mar 2016, 00:22

                                  glowing personality

                                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                    youemailme
                                    last edited by 17 Mar 2016, 19:43

                                    @willanie said:

                                    Hi beacharch

                                    This approach assumes you have already installed Sketchup2015 or Sketchup2014 and Visualizer.

                                    After installing Sketchup2016
                                    dont start Sketchup2016 yet and go to folder
                                    /Library/Application Support/

                                    If there isn't one already create this folder hierarchy(exactly matching upper and lowercase)
                                    /Library/Application Support/Sketchup 2016/Sketchup/Plugins

                                    from /Library/Application Support/Sketchup 2015/Sketchup/Plugins
                                    copy these two items(one is a folder the other is a ruby file)
                                    ImaginationVisualizer
                                    ImaginationVisualizer.rb
                                    paste them into
                                    /Library/Application Support/Sketchup 2016/Sketchup/Plugins

                                    Now launch Sketchup2016 you should see Visualizer under the Extensions pull-down.
                                    If Visualizer doesn't show up in the Extensions pull-down
                                    click on
                                    Sketchup->Preferences->Extensions
                                    you should see Visualizer with an unchecked toggle box ... check that toggle on
                                    close the preferences window

                                    and Bob's your uncle Visualizer running in Sketchup2016
                                    (you may have to relaunch Sketchup)

                                    OK, I'm confused! I finally found the ImaginationVisualizer folder and .rb file, though they were in a folder "plugins" in C:. I can't for the life of me figure out what you're referring to by the folder "/Library/Application Support". Where is this to be found? I tried pasting the above folder and .rb into the plugins folder in SU 2016, but when I start SU, I get the following load error:


                                    Error Loading File ImaginationVisualizer/iv_localization
                                    Could not find included file 'ImaginationVisualizer/iv_localization'
                                    Error Loading File ImaginationVisualizer.rb
                                    Error: #<NoMethodError: undefined method TRANSLATE' for ImgTecVis:Module> C:/Users/SHD/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2016/SketchUp/Plugins/ImaginationVisualizer.rb:20:in module:ImgTecVis'
                                    C:/Users/SHD/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2016/SketchUp/Plugins/ImaginationVisualizer.rb:14:in `<top (required)>'
                                    Error Loading File ImaginationVisualizer/iv_initialize
                                    Could not find included file 'ImaginationVisualizer/iv_initialize'
                                    Error Loading File ImaginationVisualizer/iv_menus
                                    Could not find included file 'ImaginationVisualizer/iv_menus'


                                    What am I doing wrong?

                                    Thanks

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                                      willanie
                                      last edited by 17 Mar 2016, 19:56

                                      Hi youemailme,

                                      Take a look at this post on the sketchup forums
                                      user john_drivenupthewall has provided a way to do it from the sketchup ruby console.

                                      favicon

                                      (forums.sketchup.com)

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                                        driven
                                        last edited by 17 Mar 2016, 20:05

                                        That's a mac way, I'd have to modify it for PC's and to do that I'd need to add some ruby...

                                        john

                                        learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                          willanie
                                          last edited by 17 Mar 2016, 21:47

                                          Yes you are right john, unfortunately I read youemailme's post too quickly and thought they were installing on a Mac not windows PC platform.

                                          youemailme your "quoted" section is referring to installing on a Mac.
                                          Please read pilou's post that explains how to do it on Windows
                                          here
                                          http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=80%26amp;t=57758%26amp;start=60#p581313

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