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    Just a question: Do SketchUp and ZBrush compare ??

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    • dereiD Offline
      derei
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      So, here we have: SketchUp and Zbrush - of course I won't compare them in terms of functionality. Each is for a completely different purpose and they address totally different needs. But nevertheless both are 3D modelling programs.

      My (rhetorical) question is: DO THEY COMPARE IN TERMS OF ROBUSTNESS ? I mean, do both "do as it says on the tin", sort of speaking? Are they both equally solid, coherent, reliable in terms of what both are doing?

      I am asking this because i was literally SHOCKED to see the prices are almost the same and I would love to see SketchUp performing to the same level of professionalism as ZBrush is doing in its field... for the same money.

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      • pilouP Offline
        pilou
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        Maybe it's not exactly the same finality! 💚
        Each has own qualities! ☀

        And Zbrush has as special commercial politic from the beginning more 13 years ago
        all updates are free!!! 😎 (so maybe 150 $ for the old users! 😉
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        • ontaottoO Offline
          ontaotto
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          I know where your comments go, yeah to me is pricey too what Trimble asks for SketchUp license, obviously is not the same vein in no single order, both programs are quite different.

          Autodesk offers Maya for education purposes and is a very professional program, with no limitants and that is for free, why Trimble don't do some similar?

          I wish that SU license be cheaper....

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          • O Offline
            otb designworks
            last edited by

            Or what about the Mac version of Rhino for only $500? That is an incredible amount of power for that price. Even at the windows Rhino pricing of $1000, it is still a bargain, in my opinion, vs the $700 they want for SU.

            And, for the money, Z-Brush is off the charts. I wish I had more need to use it, because that software can do some magical things...

            Cheers, Chuck

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            • Lemoyne ArchitectL Offline
              Lemoyne Architect
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              @ontaotto said:

              I know where your comments go, yeah to me is pricey too what Trimble asks for SketchUp license, obviously is not the same vein in no single order, both programs are quite different.

              I don’t know, I do everything I used to do in AutoCAD for about 10% of the price with SketchUp - and SketchUp does offer the free version if you don’t need layout and such features. No complaints here.

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                JQL
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                @lemoyne architect said:

                @ontaotto said:

                I know where your comments go, yeah to me is pricey too what Trimble asks for SketchUp license, obviously is not the same vein in no single order, both programs are quite different.

                I don’t know, I do everything I used to do in AutoCAD for about 10% of the price with SketchUp - and SketchUp does offer the free version if you don’t need layout and such features. No complaints here.

                It's not free. You have to pay it to use commercially or in education (not if you're a teacher though...)

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                • Lemoyne ArchitectL Offline
                  Lemoyne Architect
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                  @jql said:

                  It's not free. You have to pay it to use commercially or in education (not if you're a teacher though...)

                  Ok, I’ve been using SU since before Google, so I wasn’t aware of the non-commercial use under Trimble (just read up on that).

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                  • dereiD Offline
                    derei
                    last edited by

                    @ontaotto said:

                    I know where your comments go, yeah to me is pricey too what Trimble asks for SketchUp license, obviously is not the same vein in no single order, both programs are quite different.

                    Autodesk offers Maya for education purposes and is a very professional program, with no limitants and that is for free, why Trimble don't do some similar?

                    I wish that SU license be cheaper....

                    Please read again, I don't compare them in "organic modelling", I am aware that each of them is for SOMETHING ELSE... but I compare the robustness of the program itself, how well is made, how reliable, how good it handles ITS OWN TASKS. I mean, if i try to do the things i do in SU by using ZBrush, it would be a pain... also to model such complex things in SU as they can be done in zbrush... so, this point is out.
                    I was just saying: Look a very robust and reliable program for $800 and look one that awaits some basic fixes for 5 years yet and almost nothing was done... yet the price lately reached $700. See my point?

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
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                      For Hobbyist SU is better because it has a free version! But...
                      you have Sculptris from the ZB Galaxy! 😉
                      So null match for this case! 😄

                      Seems you want compare this

                      https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Tesla_circa_1890.jpeg/300px-Tesla_circa_1890.jpeg

                      and

                      http://ekladata.com/GKssuIIbaRnX7N0yKKTNZwn2BiU.jpg

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                      • dereiD Offline
                        derei
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                        Still not null match, pilou. Because both sculptris (btw, i use sculptris) and zbrush work wonderful. But in case of SU, both free and pro suffer from the same weaknesses: they are underdeveloped and the pro is still overpriced for what it offers.

                        The point of this topic was to draw attention to how others sell their software: they meet price with quality.
                        I expect by the time when SketchUp will reach the robustness of any other major software to cost like AutoCad. And by robustness i don't mean to be complicated, but to really do properly what is supposed to do already.
                        -proper uv-mapping
                        -fix scenes renaming bug
                        -faster and more responsive LayOut
                        -text mismatch fixed between SU and LO
                        -text mismatch fixed in LO between edit mode and rendered mode
                        -less bugsplats
                        -some really important features introduced by default instead of being needed contributed plugins (like Layrrs Panel)
                        ...and many others.

                        Can you imagine SketchUp's price then? Like $$$$... and this was my point: zbrush can do much better and syill keeping price low. One more thing: zbrush users are a very narrow niche, another reason to increase price. SU can be used by artists, hobbysts, architects, engineergs, teachers, psychologists... etc.

                        And your comparison would have been closer to reality if you had chosen Edison, not Tesla 😄 ... because Edison was a prick that used Tesla to make money and didn't repaid accordingly 😄)) ...kind of what Trimble does with SketchUp.

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