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    • Bryan KB Offline
      Bryan K
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      Thanks for the info Jim. Engineering drawings of any kind are always a big help.

      Looking good!

      See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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      • LA_RR_ArchitectL Offline
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        Hello again,

        In answer to the question that probably no one has asked: What do you do with a boxcar?

        I couple it into a train, in this case a string of mostly empties behind my switch engine.

        switch train.jpg

        And the switch train? Roll it into a scene and press the render button.

        trains035_03.jpg

        Yes, I know still kind of dark, but thanks for looking.

        Jim

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        • pbacotP Offline
          pbacot
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          Very nice--cool and fun picturs. Yes I find your renders are dark and I wish to see the details better.

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          • LA_RR_ArchitectL Offline
            LA_RR_Architect
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            OK, setting asside my penchant for dramatic (moody) lighting, here's another view of my scene from another direction with the sun set to a bit closer to noon.

            trains035_05.jpg

            My renderings are typically at 3849x2400 resolution (twice my screen) so they have been reduced a bit to get them through the site's 1000 pixel limit. Below are two images cropped to aprox. 1000x1000 which may give you a bit better idea of the detail I see on my screen.

            trains035_05a.jpg
            trains035_05b.jpg

            I rather enjoy the little bit of the scene I see reflected in the caboose's marker lights.

            Once again, thanks for looking.

            Jim

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            • LA_RR_ArchitectL Offline
              LA_RR_Architect
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              My current rail road themed project is Kelso Depo.

              Kelso Depo was built by the Union Pacific in 1924 and pretty much sits in the middle of the Mojave desert, over 20 miles from the nearest highway and 35 miles from the closest town. The building still exists and is now operated by the National Park Service.

              Kelso.jpg

              The model is now about 75% complete and is geo-located.

              More to come soon. Jim

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              • deaneauD Offline
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                @LA_RR_Architect

                do you design for any railroad simulator ,too?

                for trainz i have a sketchup plugin.

                im sad about, that sketchup cant export animations (not movies) i mean real animations.

                here a simple export from Lightup4sketchup to trainz.

                lights and shadows will bake in the texture.

                for this i dont need 3dmax.

                YellowDoor_Snap_2015.05.03_07h55m21s_002_.jpg

                YellowDoor_Snap_2015.05.03_08h00m38s_004_.jpg

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                • LA_RR_ArchitectL Offline
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                  Hello,

                  Interesting images... looks like light and shadows are well handled.

                  But, no, so far, my models are static renders only.

                  The models are a bit large and for me fairly complicated mechanically, I'd love to see them move but I'm not sure how to describe the motions.

                  Also I've had a bit of a challenge getting 3dMax to render any animations - I think it doesn't like my computer. I can do large static renders but as soon as I attempt even a simple an animation, it crashes.

                  Jim

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                  • deaneauD Offline
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                    than look at Eneroth Railroad System (ERS). ok the locos in this plugin is lowpoly..this is needed. otherwise your framerate will drop.

                    you could try highpoly..however the movement of your cars annd locos could be very slow.

                    when you design own tracks, ERS can help you to setup your cars and locos on this track.

                    your renderings look like LumenRT or Lumion

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                    • LA_RR_ArchitectL Offline
                      LA_RR_Architect
                      last edited by

                      I think for the moment, it's time to suspend SU modeling and begin assembling parts in 3DMax.

                      Here's where things stand this evening.

                      Kelso 2.jpg

                      Kelso 3a.jpg

                      The station has a partial interior; floors, partitions and doors so I hope to be able to apply some useful interior lighting.

                      Kelso 4a.jpg

                      Cheers, Jim

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                      • pbacotP Offline
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                        This is great. They certainly built a good size depot for the middle of nowhere. Is is possible to go in or look inside the building today?

                        Railroads really put a lot into building up the fantasy of the west, along with many depots that were fine buildings in their own right.

                        Great job on the tile roof. Did you have any plugins or methods that helped in that, or just brute force?

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                        • LA_RR_ArchitectL Offline
                          LA_RR_Architect
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                          Hello,

                          The depo still exists pretty much dead in the middle of no where. The rail road abandoned use of it in 1985 and subequently sold it to the National Park Service in 1992.

                          It is now fully, and very nicely, restored inside and out and serves as the visitor center at the Mojave National Preserve which is a 2,500 square mile preserve. A park larger than either the state of Deleware or Rhode Island. If you look at Google images of Kelso Depo, you can see how well done it is.

                          And yes, the tile work was strictly brute force. I wasn't sure I could pull it off but it wasn't too difficult and seems to have worked pretty well.

                          Jim

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                          • deaneauD Offline
                            deaneau
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                            jim if you want, you can share your work in the 3dWarehouse.

                            Pullman Buildings look very nice ,too

                            i have seen in this week a movie about the time around the May/10/1869

                            http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/1869-Golden_Spike.jpg

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                            • Bryan KB Offline
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                              The building looks great!

                              See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                              • LA_RR_ArchitectL Offline
                                LA_RR_Architect
                                last edited by

                                Hello folks,

                                Here are a couple renderings including my Kelso Depo model.

                                The backround mountains are images I made on site two weeks ago, the trees are free models from Xfrog.

                                kelso_14.jpg

                                Kelso_24.jpg

                                The third image is an enlarged detail showing roof tiles, awnings and double hung windows, gutter and downspout detail and decorative bandsawn rafter tails.

                                kelso_19-det.jpg

                                I hope you enjoy, thanks for looking.

                                Jim

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                                • LA_RR_ArchitectL Offline
                                  LA_RR_Architect
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                                  Hello all,

                                  My latest project is nearing completion... this time the small but fairly fussy B&O depot at Point of Rocks, Maryland.

                                  It was modeled from the photos and drawings found in the Historic American Engineering Record Survey housed on-line at the Library of Congress. I have also consulted other on-line images of the building which still is in use.

                                  Jim


                                  point of rocks.jpg


                                  point of rocks MONO.jpg

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                                  • pbacotP Offline
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                                    Sweet. Yes fussy. Extra decoration or contrivances seem to be features of depots--almost like follies. As if the small building needs extra help to express how fine the destination is. We had many small historical depots in our area that are gone now. Swept away with the public transport. Now a new train is going in and a new depot near our house with it's own idiosyncrasies.

                                    Very cool model. Would like to see rendering and close-ups. Thanks for sharing!

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                                    • pbacotP Offline
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                                      Oh I missed your depot renderings of the UP desert depot. Very well done!. Good colors on the tile and all. I like the desert mountains in the background. I had expected the trains to be along a platform at the back.

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                                      • LA_RR_ArchitectL Offline
                                        LA_RR_Architect
                                        last edited by

                                        Hello pbacot,

                                        Thanks for the comments.

                                        Kelso is a bit of an odd depot, not really serving traditional depo functions. For example it has minimal ticketing and baggage support and no waiting room or platform. I gather that in the days before air conditioning waiting in the shade under the arcade was the best option.

                                        The depo served two customers: there was a dinner operated 24-7 for passengers on trains without dinning cars and recreational facilities and housing for the railway workers who ran the water / refuel stop and the helper engines that pushed trains over the hill to Los Vegas.

                                        I've started on the material tweaking and environment for renderings of the Point of Rocks depot, but it will be a while before I have much to post.

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                                        • Bryan KB Offline
                                          Bryan K
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                                          Another fine model. 👍

                                          See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                                          • LA_RR_ArchitectL Offline
                                            LA_RR_Architect
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                                            It's been a while since I posted anything, partly from my need to earn a living, partly because I needed to work out the shingles on the station and partly due to inertia.

                                            In any case, I've finally completed a few renderings of the Point of Rocks, Baltimore and Ohio train station in Maryland. The model is geo-located on terrain extracted from Google.

                                            Switch train rolling through Point of Rocks

                                            An overall view... working out the curving track was one of the challenges.

                                            Closer view from the platform

                                            A bit of a detail. The paving, brickwork and stone bands are textures, the slate shingles have been modeled, painfully, one at a time with the coursing and patterns as close to the photos of the actual station as possible.

                                            Arriving home from work late in the evening.

                                            ...and of course we need one of my extra dark images, imagining what it would look like arriving late at night.

                                            I hope you enjoy.

                                            Jim

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