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    LA_RR_Architect
    last edited by 4 Apr 2015, 04:27

    Just added a new box car to my small and slowly growing collection of railroad equipment. It features an improved truck and more complete brake equipment.

    Pictures below.

    Jim


    AAR 40FT BOX 8 hl.jpg


    bettendorf truck-hl.jpg


    AAR 40FT BOX s.jpg


    SF Box 01.jpg

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      Bryan K
      last edited by 4 Apr 2015, 04:56

      Those look great! Are you working from engineering drawings?

      See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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        LA_RR_Architect
        last edited by 4 Apr 2015, 18:09

        Hi Bryan,

        Yes, I work from engineering drawings and photographs as I can find them. Most are partial sets of drawings either abstracted or redrawn for model builders. I look for drawings where there's enought dimensional and detail information go create a reasonable copy.

        Jim

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          Bryan K
          last edited by 5 Apr 2015, 02:15

          Thanks for the info Jim. Engineering drawings of any kind are always a big help.

          Looking good!

          See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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            LA_RR_Architect
            last edited by 11 Apr 2015, 00:35

            Hello again,

            In answer to the question that probably no one has asked: What do you do with a boxcar?

            I couple it into a train, in this case a string of mostly empties behind my switch engine.

            switch train.jpg

            And the switch train? Roll it into a scene and press the render button.

            trains035_03.jpg

            Yes, I know still kind of dark, but thanks for looking.

            Jim

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              pbacot
              last edited by 11 Apr 2015, 00:43

              Very nice--cool and fun picturs. Yes I find your renders are dark and I wish to see the details better.

              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                LA_RR_Architect
                last edited by 11 Apr 2015, 21:02

                OK, setting asside my penchant for dramatic (moody) lighting, here's another view of my scene from another direction with the sun set to a bit closer to noon.

                trains035_05.jpg

                My renderings are typically at 3849x2400 resolution (twice my screen) so they have been reduced a bit to get them through the site's 1000 pixel limit. Below are two images cropped to aprox. 1000x1000 which may give you a bit better idea of the detail I see on my screen.

                trains035_05a.jpg
                trains035_05b.jpg

                I rather enjoy the little bit of the scene I see reflected in the caboose's marker lights.

                Once again, thanks for looking.

                Jim

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                  LA_RR_Architect
                  last edited by 3 May 2015, 07:05

                  My current rail road themed project is Kelso Depo.

                  Kelso Depo was built by the Union Pacific in 1924 and pretty much sits in the middle of the Mojave desert, over 20 miles from the nearest highway and 35 miles from the closest town. The building still exists and is now operated by the National Park Service.

                  Kelso.jpg

                  The model is now about 75% complete and is geo-located.

                  More to come soon. Jim

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                    deaneau
                    last edited by 3 May 2015, 08:23

                    @LA_RR_Architect

                    do you design for any railroad simulator ,too?

                    for trainz i have a sketchup plugin.

                    im sad about, that sketchup cant export animations (not movies) i mean real animations.

                    here a simple export from Lightup4sketchup to trainz.

                    lights and shadows will bake in the texture.

                    for this i dont need 3dmax.

                    YellowDoor_Snap_2015.05.03_07h55m21s_002_.jpg

                    YellowDoor_Snap_2015.05.03_08h00m38s_004_.jpg

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                      LA_RR_Architect
                      last edited by 3 May 2015, 15:54

                      Hello,

                      Interesting images... looks like light and shadows are well handled.

                      But, no, so far, my models are static renders only.

                      The models are a bit large and for me fairly complicated mechanically, I'd love to see them move but I'm not sure how to describe the motions.

                      Also I've had a bit of a challenge getting 3dMax to render any animations - I think it doesn't like my computer. I can do large static renders but as soon as I attempt even a simple an animation, it crashes.

                      Jim

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                        deaneau
                        last edited by 3 May 2015, 16:38

                        than look at Eneroth Railroad System (ERS). ok the locos in this plugin is lowpoly..this is needed. otherwise your framerate will drop.

                        you could try highpoly..however the movement of your cars annd locos could be very slow.

                        when you design own tracks, ERS can help you to setup your cars and locos on this track.

                        your renderings look like LumenRT or Lumion

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                          LA_RR_Architect
                          last edited by 5 May 2015, 05:05

                          I think for the moment, it's time to suspend SU modeling and begin assembling parts in 3DMax.

                          Here's where things stand this evening.

                          Kelso 2.jpg

                          Kelso 3a.jpg

                          The station has a partial interior; floors, partitions and doors so I hope to be able to apply some useful interior lighting.

                          Kelso 4a.jpg

                          Cheers, Jim

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                            pbacot
                            last edited by 5 May 2015, 15:54

                            This is great. They certainly built a good size depot for the middle of nowhere. Is is possible to go in or look inside the building today?

                            Railroads really put a lot into building up the fantasy of the west, along with many depots that were fine buildings in their own right.

                            Great job on the tile roof. Did you have any plugins or methods that helped in that, or just brute force?

                            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                              LA_RR_Architect
                              last edited by 5 May 2015, 17:48

                              Hello,

                              The depo still exists pretty much dead in the middle of no where. The rail road abandoned use of it in 1985 and subequently sold it to the National Park Service in 1992.

                              It is now fully, and very nicely, restored inside and out and serves as the visitor center at the Mojave National Preserve which is a 2,500 square mile preserve. A park larger than either the state of Deleware or Rhode Island. If you look at Google images of Kelso Depo, you can see how well done it is.

                              And yes, the tile work was strictly brute force. I wasn't sure I could pull it off but it wasn't too difficult and seems to have worked pretty well.

                              Jim

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                                deaneau
                                last edited by 5 May 2015, 17:56

                                jim if you want, you can share your work in the 3dWarehouse.

                                Pullman Buildings look very nice ,too

                                i have seen in this week a movie about the time around the May/10/1869

                                http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/1869-Golden_Spike.jpg

                                The Golden Spike ceremony held at Promontory Summit, Utah on May 10, 1869. Photograph by Andrew J. Russell.

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                                  Bryan K
                                  last edited by 6 May 2015, 01:27

                                  The building looks great!

                                  See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                                    LA_RR_Architect
                                    last edited by 11 May 2015, 22:10

                                    Hello folks,

                                    Here are a couple renderings including my Kelso Depo model.

                                    The backround mountains are images I made on site two weeks ago, the trees are free models from Xfrog.

                                    kelso_14.jpg

                                    Kelso_24.jpg

                                    The third image is an enlarged detail showing roof tiles, awnings and double hung windows, gutter and downspout detail and decorative bandsawn rafter tails.

                                    kelso_19-det.jpg

                                    I hope you enjoy, thanks for looking.

                                    Jim

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                                      LA_RR_Architect
                                      last edited by 3 Jun 2015, 05:47

                                      Hello all,

                                      My latest project is nearing completion... this time the small but fairly fussy B&O depot at Point of Rocks, Maryland.

                                      It was modeled from the photos and drawings found in the Historic American Engineering Record Survey housed on-line at the Library of Congress. I have also consulted other on-line images of the building which still is in use.

                                      Jim


                                      point of rocks.jpg


                                      point of rocks MONO.jpg

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                                        pbacot
                                        last edited by 3 Jun 2015, 15:53

                                        Sweet. Yes fussy. Extra decoration or contrivances seem to be features of depots--almost like follies. As if the small building needs extra help to express how fine the destination is. We had many small historical depots in our area that are gone now. Swept away with the public transport. Now a new train is going in and a new depot near our house with it's own idiosyncrasies.

                                        Very cool model. Would like to see rendering and close-ups. Thanks for sharing!

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                                          pbacot
                                          last edited by 3 Jun 2015, 23:30

                                          Oh I missed your depot renderings of the UP desert depot. Very well done!. Good colors on the tile and all. I like the desert mountains in the background. I had expected the trains to be along a platform at the back.

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