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    • Dan RathbunD Offline
      Dan Rathbun
      last edited by

      Comparison for SketchUp 2015 ?

      I'm not here much anymore.

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      • tt_suT Offline
        tt_su
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        No code examples? Or anything we can run to test?

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          Garry K
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          I tried my Stair Maker plugin with the last 5 versions of SU on Windows 7.

          I asked it to build a 360 degree curved stair with housed stringers and 56 Risers, 50 progressive flare (forces 50 unique treads and 50 unique risers) Each tread flare inreased by 5 mm.
          The stair had 2 of the most complex rails that I provide. So there are 392 curved and twised sections making up the 2 rails.

          SU 7: 44 seconds
          SU 8: 42.5 seconds
          SU 2013: 34.3 seconds
          SU 2014: 32.3 seconds
          SU 2015 64 bit: 33.5 seconds

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            Garry K
            last edited by

            Here are the parameters of the stair.
            You can see the progressive flare.


            Stair Parameters


            Stair

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              glro
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              @adamb said:

              glro: you seem very quick to judge things you perhaps do not understand.

              The purpose of having 2 locations, is that one is a global, shared repository, another is a per-user repository.

              OK, now i understand the interest of a global repository: it doesn't need the session name
              C:\ProgramData\SketchUp\SketchUp 2015\SketchUp\Plugins

              so it might be easier to find when installing a plugin

              maybe ...

              but still, if a plugin needs special components to be installed, it still has to be done in the program files folder; so it still needs administrator rights

              the component folder should be outside the program files folder also

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                roland joseph
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                Shut down the external ruby pipeline and hire a bunch of ruby coders. Now that would be a diabolical means for Trimble to make money wouldn't it? 😲

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                  glro
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                  @aerilius said:

                  What does the code do?
                  Apart from pure mathematical calculations, programming languages can also have side effects and interact with the environment (and such side effects make things hard to reproduce and bugs hard to discover).
                  Although the ruby version is maybe still the same, the SketchUp environment is changed and performance is affected by entity creation (which then can even call observers of other plugins) or interaction with the user interface.

                  from SU profiler result, the program mainly spends time in this type of operation
                  "Sketchup::Entities#each"

                  would you say that this includes these lines of code?

                  for e in entities
                      if e.is_a? Sketchup;;ComponentInstance
                            status = selection.add e
                      end 
                  end #for
                  
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                    glro
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                    @roland joseph said:

                    Shut down the external ruby pipeline ... 😲

                    do you suggest that some plugins (as mine ...) running slower would be the consequence of an intentional reduction of capacity for ruby programs to interact with sketchup?

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                      Aerilius
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                      @glro said:

                      from SU profiler result, the program mainly spends time in this type of operation
                      "Sketchup::Entities#each"

                      The profiler (plugin!) requires quite some understanding of what it does, and how meaningful the result is — even for more advanced developers this profiler in its current state is not that much helpful. That it spends time in each doesn't tell much without decomposing what it does inside each.

                      @roland joseph said:

                      Shut down the external ruby pipeline ... 😲

                      There is no "external" ruby pipeline.

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                        glro
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                        @aerilius said:

                        @glro said:

                        from SU profiler result, the program mainly spends time in this type of operation
                        "Sketchup::Entities#each"

                        The profiler (plugin!) requires quite some understanding of what it does, and how meaningful the result is — even for more advanced developers this profiler in its current state is not that much helpful. That it spends time in each doesn't tell much without decomposing what it does inside each.

                        @roland joseph said:

                        Shut down the external ruby pipeline ... 😲

                        There is no "external" ruby pipeline.

                        thank you for the answer

                        so no clue from profiler plugin
                        and no conspiracy theory

                        and what about the incidence of the previous model opened? i did notice that the time necessary to proceed on the basis of fixed parameters, may vary according to the previous model opened

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                          roland joseph
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                          @unknownuser said:

                          do you suggest that some plugins (as mine ...) running slower would be the consequence of an intentional reduction of capacity for ruby programs to interact with sketchup?

                          No. 😄

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                            roland joseph
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                            @unknownuser said:

                            There is no "external" ruby pipeline.

                            Phew, I was worried for a moment. 😕

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