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      watkins
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      There have been a few comments in the Guardian, but otherwise, those who have and are negotiating this deal have managed to keep the whole thing very low key.

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      More questions and answers on contentious TTIP trade deal | @guardianletters

      Letters: There are many arguments for and against the TTIP. But they deserve to be debated on their wmerits, not by scaremongering

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      the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

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      The TTIP deal hands British sovereignty to multinationals | Owen Jones

      Owen Jones: Cameron’s and Ukip’s backing for a treaty that lets corporations devour public services exposes their duplicity

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      the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

      A major concern is the privitisation of the NHS

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      EU/US Free Trade Agreement (or TTIP)

      Free trade agreements (FTAs) might seem a million miles from the NHS. However, FTAs are not just about the trading of goods. They also cover services (sometimes defined as  “anything you can&…

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      Patients4NHS (www.patients4nhs.org.uk)

      An extract:

      How could TTIP affect the NHS? Many believe that one of the biggest prizes of the agreement for transnationals will be the NHS. When it was first established, the NHS was set up on the basis of social solidarity – everyone contributed to the cost of providing the NHS through taxes, and in return healthcare was provided by the state and available for those who needed it, when they needed it. The Health and Social Care Act (2012) and the regulations for implementing it (Section 75) have changed the fundamental nature of the NHS. By fragmenting the NHS, opening it up to competition law and turning the NHS into a market in which private companies can compete for NHS funding for patient services, the HSC Act has turned the NHS from a social into a commercial activity. This means that it can now be included within FTAs.

      regards,
      Bob

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        numerobis
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        I already signed against TTIP etc. on this german website https://www.campact.de/

        @elmer said:

        Here is what we plan to do in Nîmes on october 11th:

        I think it's the same all over europe this day, at least here in germany too. I really hope that the people in europe will wake up and vote against this shit!

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        • elmerE Offline
          elmer
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          @ watkins :
          "There have been a few comments in the Guardian, but otherwise, those who have and are negotiating this deal have managed to keep the whole thing very low key."

          This is so right... and so far from "democracy"

          @ numerobis :
          "I really hope that the people in Europe will wake up and vote against this shit!"

          Let's hope people in the US will do the same, they are as much concerned as we are.

          Regards,

          Patrice

          Here under, made with LO, the flyer for Saturday meeting, in French of course 😉 :


          TRACT STOP TAFTA 11-10-14-RECTO-1.pdf


          TRACT STOP TAFTA 11-10-14-VERSO-1-COR-1.pdf

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            numerobis
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            @elmer said:

            Let's hope people in the US will do the same, they are as much concerned as we are.

            I hope so!

            Here is the new EU-wide campaign. I have signed today. Please! Everyone must support this! Sign it share it, make it big!

            http://stop-ttip.org/sign/

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            • Mike LuceyM Offline
              Mike Lucey
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              Thanks Bob for raising this matter and also numerobis for the ECI link.

              The elite 1% of parasitic globalists will keep going until the host (the 99% remaining world population) are sucked dry and nothing remains but a carcass!

              I see the student debt in the USA is running at $1.2 trillion or $1,200,000,000,000 and is more or less enslaving many students as they have little or no hope of repaying their loans. Heck, even if they file for bankruptcy the weight still remains!

              Here is a Forbes article,

              How The $1.2 Trillion College Debt Crisis Is Crippling Students, Parents And The Economy
              http://www.forbes.com/sites/specialfeatures/2013/08/07/how-the-college-debt-is-crippling-students-parents-and-the-economy/

              I think it might be time to make limited liability companies totally liable particularly the BIG corporations. When they first came about their charters asserted that they existed first and foremost to serve the public. That was their only reason for being. Now it feel like big corporations are there for one reason, profit at any cost, environmental or human it matters not!

              This is an interesting read that casts some light, Corporations and the Public Interest
              http://www.context.org/iclib/ic41/rowe/

              I'll make this topic sticky for a while so others can row in.

              Mike

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              • elmerE Offline
                elmer
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                Join in on saturday 11th :

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                (www.stop-ttip-ceta-tisa.eu)

                @mayor Mike :

                Thanks for making this topic sticky.
                Watkins comment is so true :
                "those who have and are negotiating this deal have managed to keep the whole thing very low key."

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                • elmerE Offline
                  elmer
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                  A little bit disapointed by so few people involved by what is going on....

                  So for those who prefer drawings to litterature :

                  Regards,

                  Patrice

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                  • Mike LuceyM Offline
                    Mike Lucey
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                    Please don't be disheartened Elmer.

                    Food for thought 😉

                    Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.
                    Alexander Hamilton

                    One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.
                    Plato

                    I've emailed all of the eleven Irish MEPs and provided links and asked to know where they stand on the TTIP matter.

                    Here is a link to all MEPs if anyone wants to take the same approach,

                    European Parliament / MEPs (with email links)
                    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/map.html

                    Mike

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                      Rodentpete
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                      Uk politicians really don't like that 38 Degrees is representing the views of members of the public that are against this - Sound clip of the inquisition.

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                      • Mike LuceyM Offline
                        Mike Lucey
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                        When Big Business is involved most current political parties in power will Kowtow to their masters!

                        Its good to see public debate taking place. More people should do their own research and form their own opinions and then voice them as loudly as they can.

                        There is no excuse not to be well informed these days with the Net.

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