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    • C Offline
      Cuchulainn
      last edited by

      Many thanks for taking the time to respond guys!

      That sounds like the solution to my problem pbacot. It's a shame I really couldn't justify going pro at present to get the tool required. As my plans are limited to just producing a small number of bits and pieces for myself, I really can't see me paying the $596 price tag to upgrade - at least not at this time.

      However I think there may be a couple of plugins available for the free version which may include this capability. I'll have to have a look for them when I get home from work.

      Yes cotty, I just noticed the attachments button when I went to read these replies. Now I know this for next time.

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      • cottyC Offline
        cotty
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        There is no PRO functionality in Pbacots solution involved...

        my SketchUp gallery

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          Cuchulainn
          last edited by

          I just noticed that cotty. I really need to sit down and read what this software can do.

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          • olisheaO Offline
            olishea
            last edited by

            The pro version just makes it a couple of clicks instead of our standard way which produces the same result. Pretty lame!

            oli

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            • pbacotP Offline
              pbacot
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              @olishea said:

              The pro version just makes it a couple of clicks instead of our standard way which produces the same result. Pretty lame!

              What do you mean?

              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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              • olisheaO Offline
                olishea
                last edited by

                The included solid tools. I'm just saying they are pretty lame as a new feature, only for pro version iirc. Wasn't saying your solution is lame, although it kinda came across that way haha 👍

                oli

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                  pbacot
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                  oh I know. And it seems this way is more straightforward than making up blocks and aligning to chop up the main form. With a face-based modeler. The most direct way might be something like TIGs extrude edges to surface and supposedly you'd have a little less to trim. I can't think how even a ruby would be designed to do it faster.

                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                    Cuchulainn
                    last edited by

                    Just a little update...

                    I spent all night last night playing about with the technique described by pbacot. It has to be said my initial attempts weren't all that successful. This was all my fault, I'm really still learning how this software works, and I would keep missing out some step or other which didn't help in producing a finished product. However...

                    Finally I did it right - the faces and edges that were not destained to be part of the turret were deleted to reveal a more than reasonable representation of one of Bismarck's turrets. The angled roofs of the thing looked a bit steep though, so I reduced it from 45 degrees to 30. The results were much more acceptable... indeed so pleased am I with what I achieved in my first attempt, I'm thinking of posting an image for you all to see! It's not the finished product yet, it's really only an exercise to get used to Sketchup, but I'm really delighted with how it has turned out so far!

                    There are still a few odds and ends to add to the turret, a couple of ladders, periscopes, etc. but so far things are looking good.

                    So again, thanks to everyone who responded to my request, especially pbacot for showing me the proper technique to get the back of the turret right, and cotty for pointing out the tool I needed was available on the free version.

                    You can watch this space for a view of my creation!

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                    • pbacotP Offline
                      pbacot
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                      Congrats. Would love to see the results and your other ship modelling efforts as they unfold. You know there are some expert ship modelers here with great informative posts if you search for them. It seems too that some of these ship masters are more likely NOT to use plugins, but do their work with basic SU tools. Still some plugins should be great to help with the curvy things on ships. For that turret you may eventually want to use "R ound Corners" plugin to round off the edges, where appropriate.

                      These techniques and others can be a little confusing but eventually you'll see the way they work and it'll be faster and easier. Also your ability to use inferences, your mouse, and keyboard to manipulate and navigate will increase, so inaccuracies don't mess up what you are trying to pull-off--and you don't spend half the time just trying to get a good angle looking at the object. Good luck.

                      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                        Cuchulainn
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                        Well here it is! It may not be pretty, but it's not too bad for a first attempt.

                        Turret (With Rangefinders).jpg
                        Obviously it still isn't complete, I have to fit a ladder to each side for one thing, and of course I have to stick a couple of slits in the front face for a couple of 15" guns. There's also something not quite right about the periscopes protruding vertically from the sides of the turrets, I don't know just what exactly, but there's something I'm not happy with. I'll have to have another look at that.

                        Inn general, I wasn't really going for accuracy or proper scaling with this attempt, just something that looked like one of the three main turrets Bismarck had, which had the range finders on each side. The fourth turret had them removed in 1940. So with that in mind, I think i am not totally unjustified in feeling more than a little pleased with my efforts so far..?

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