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    cotty
    last edited by 14 May 2014, 16:17

    Here's the preview from shapeways, it looks faceted too.
    In fact, I think the process will not allow faceted faces even if you want it that way because of the glazed surface. The face is much smoother than expected.

    shapeway_vase.jpg

    my SketchUp gallery

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      solo
      last edited by 14 May 2014, 16:28

      These are cool and all but what are the costs of a model? Can you tell me from above examples how much they cost in materials and time it took to make?

      http://www.solos-art.com

      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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        cotty
        last edited by 14 May 2014, 16:59

        @solo said:

        These are cool and all but what are the costs of a model? Can you tell me from above examples how much they cost in materials and time it took to make?

        The delivery time depends on the material, in my experience: from a few days to 3 weeks.

        Price preview for the vase model:

        vase_costs.jpg

        my SketchUp gallery

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          cotty
          last edited by 14 May 2014, 17:19

          A holder of our plissรฉs was repeatedly broken, now it is replaced...
          (Alumide: ca. 2 Euro, Steel ca. 8 Euro)

          clip.jpg

          my SketchUp gallery

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            olishea
            last edited by 14 May 2014, 19:15

            Solo, they offer discount for bulk orders too.

            Thanks cotty, that really confirmed my suspicions. Guess I was stressing out over nothing! haha

            oli

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              solo
              last edited by 14 May 2014, 19:26

              What I really want to know is the price if you have your own machine, I'm contemplating buying one, but do not know which one or what material yet.

              http://www.solos-art.com

              If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                d12dozr
                last edited by 14 May 2014, 19:56

                Pete, a part made on a home printer will cost roughly 1-5% of a professionally printed part, but you also have a lot more work involved and will get a much lower quality product.

                This cabin was printed on a pro printer (Full Color Sandstone from Shapeways) for ~$150:

                http://i.imgur.com/1IdPoEE.jpg

                Full Photo Album

                The same cabin printed in ABS plastic on my home printer for $2.25, not including the 3 failed prints - and the model doesn't look nearly as good.

                http://i.imgur.com/WlKKqpD.jpg

                Full Photo Album

                If I knew how to operate the printer better, I could get better prints. I've had it for 6 months now, and have had 1 major problem where I had to tear apart the extruder to clean out jammed filament, and several smaller problems that took a few hours of troubleshooting to correct. Home 3D printers are NOT plug and play yet, and it really depends on your needs and skill level if you want to buy a printer.

                An analogy of using a print service vs your own printer would be sending a Sketchup model to a professional render guy and getting back a nice polished render made with Thea, vs. trying to figure out how to use Kerkythea on your own with no prior knowledge of rendering.

                3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                  olishea
                  last edited by 15 May 2014, 15:20

                  Carsten, I bet you just look for broken components in your home so you can print a replacement! haha great work!

                  oli

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                    cotty
                    last edited by 15 May 2014, 15:35

                    @olishea said:

                    Carsten, I bet you just look for broken components in your home so you can print a replacement! haha great work!

                    It's that obvious? ๐Ÿ˜Ž

                    my SketchUp gallery

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                      d12dozr
                      last edited by 15 May 2014, 15:51

                      3D Printing is for - Jewelry!

                      These are pieces that I designed in Sketchup, printed via Shapeways and i.materilise, and sell to medical professionals online. The parts are not 3D printed directly, but rather a wax model is 3D printed, then placed in a plaster mold, and finished using lost-wax casting and hand polishing of the parts. The best thing is that the print services take care of all the work, sending my customers or myself the perfect finished part.

                      The pendants sell from $69 for the smallest silver one to $450 for the big gold pendant.

                      Sterling Silver

                      http://i.imgur.com/YuBrUes.jpg

                      Solid 14K Gold

                      https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2912/13989800600_446617d3ea_b.jpg

                      Solid 14K Gold

                      http://i.imgur.com/r33eXKu.jpg

                      Solid 14K Gold

                      http://i.imgur.com/478f3sV.jpg

                      Sterling Silver

                      http://i.imgur.com/gPsBgfD.jpg

                      3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                      http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                        olishea
                        last edited by 15 May 2014, 16:13

                        WOW!!! do you sell the chains too? They really don't look like they've been printed at all....I know they've been cast from a print but they are sooooo smooth! ๐Ÿ‘

                        oli

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                          d12dozr
                          last edited by 15 May 2014, 16:28

                          I was seriously impressed with that big 14K gold pendant. Shapeways just started offering gold a month ago, and that was the first thing I ordered. They sent it out in that nice case (for free!), which is a really nice bonus. I had it in hand in just 7 business days!

                          I don't sell the chains, but have been thinking to add them. It's one more thing to have on hand and keep track of, but it may well be worth it.

                          3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                          http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                            d12dozr
                            last edited by 15 May 2014, 23:37

                            @solo said:

                            What I really want to know is the price if you have your own machine, I'm contemplating buying one, but do not know which one or what material yet.

                            Pete, the best way to get a feel for these printers is to see one in person. There are local makerspaces in nearly all major cities that will let you come and take a look for free, or pay a monthly fee join to use the tools.

                            I looked up one in Dallas called the Dallas Makerspace: http://dallasmakerspace.org/

                            From their calendar, they have an Open House every Thursday night where you can pop in, get a tour, and ask questions. I have found the folks that frequent makerspaces are very receptive to questions and helping others get started in 3D printing and other useful skills. They can help you understand the different kinds of 3D printers and help you choose one that'll work for you.

                            For anyone else wanting to learn more about 3D printing, finding a makerspace (also called hackerspace) to see a printer in action and ask the regulars questions is an excellent way to get started. Here are a few ways to find groups with 3D printers:

                            • Makerspace Directory
                            • Hackerspace Directory
                            • Meetup groups

                            3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                            http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                              olishea
                              last edited by 16 May 2014, 08:41

                              Sending off a model to i.materialise today. Let's see how it works out! I was up literally all night, when I sleep I'll be dreaming in quads! ๐Ÿ˜†

                              Quick question. For price comparison I'm also sending model to shapeways. It has to be in STL format and I'm using meshlab to export. So I'm exporting as Collada, importing into meshlab and exporting STL.

                              Problem is, my model is coming out tiny, significantly smaller than it should be. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

                              [edit] found a STL plugin which works fine, still can't think why the other method didn't though, even though I specified model units.

                              oli

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                                d12dozr
                                last edited by 16 May 2014, 09:53

                                I'm guessing model units are getting mixed up in the process. Do you know about the STL exporter ? If you use that, it's just one step and there shouldn't be any trouble! Protip - you can ZIP the file before uploading to speed the process.

                                3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                                http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                                  olishea
                                  last edited by 16 May 2014, 11:12

                                  That plugin didnt work for me on mac, version 8 sketchup. The created files contain no geometry and I've tried changing every option.

                                  I used this one instead, worked first time. So easy!!

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  SketchUp to STL Plugin with No Dialogs | Project Blog

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                                  (brettbeauregard.com)

                                  oli

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                                    d12dozr
                                    last edited by 16 May 2014, 11:59

                                    Nice find!

                                    3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                                    http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                                      notareal
                                      last edited by 16 May 2014, 19:15

                                      @cotty said:

                                      ...
                                      [attachment=0:cghve6e2]<!-- ia0 -->vase_costs.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:cghve6e2]

                                      btw if some one is planning to print custom lego parts, "coral red strong & flexible" is rather close to lego red ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                      Welcome to try [Thea Render](http://www.thearender.com/), Thea support | [kerkythea.net](http://www.kerkythea.net/) -team member

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                                        otb designworks
                                        last edited by 16 May 2014, 22:24

                                        I got to work with metal printing company for a few years.

                                        My workflow is pretty much exactly how you guys do it; my Su models are often times 20 or more versions all 100', 200', 300' from origin.

                                        I have used SU, Cheetah, and Zbrush all to great effect. Honestly, both of those softwares are inherently "better" than Su for making models for printing. Cheetah uses a modifier stack system which makes editing almost pleasant. Z brush is badass in many aspects (displacement painting with alpha masks, realtime multiple customizable symmetry operations, what?!) but it is a completely different flow than a 3D modeler.

                                        That said, I still use SU the most, mostly because I am faster in it than anything else. Oftentimes, I make the base model in Su, then into Cheetah or Zbrush for sculpting, SubD, etc. And anything architectural was SU and then Z brush for surface sculpting (choosing a stone image and then using it to paint displacement onto a base mesh and then cranking the polygons to 200 mil for final blending and detailing sure is mind blowing and makes you hate SU for what it isn't and can't do.

                                        The stainless steel/bronze had a precision of .007". I settled on a 1/8"=10' printing vs modeling scale.

                                        Here is a video I put together showing some of the renders I did during design development:


                                        dhow_wdish2.jpg


                                        040108_3d_model_0005.jpg


                                        10938_199851422164_66356792164_4503565_5961532_n.jpg


                                        4666_109905887164_66356792164_3166780_768590_n.jpg


                                        n66356792164_2616736_7981.jpg

                                        Cheers, Chuck

                                        OTB Designworks is on Youtube

                                        6 core nMP, 32 gig RAM, (2) D700 GPU's, dual monitors

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                                          d12dozr
                                          last edited by 20 May 2014, 09:45

                                          Chuck, that is some fantastic work ๐Ÿ‘

                                          Were the models intended to be used as displays, or what was the end use?

                                          I found a photo of your castle model on this blog post , listed under #4, ExOne 3D printers.

                                          3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                                          http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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