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      willipop
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      Itteration 4 makes perfect distance in between the edges ::):)


      pont_bas3.jpg

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        olishea
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        @willipop said:

        Itteration 4 makes perfect distance in between the edges ::):)

        Good luck turning the lines to tubes! πŸ˜†

        oli

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          willipop
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          its going to take approximately 36h 😞:(:( both of my pc running on 2 different files. Jeez ! Hope i will be able to navigate in the file ^^

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            pilou
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            And what about junctions of tubes ? πŸ˜‰
            Normally Lines2tubes don't managed them! πŸ€“

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
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              olishea
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              @unknownuser said:

              And what about junctions of tubes ? πŸ˜‰
              Normally Lines2tubes don't managed them! πŸ€“

              I don't think it's possible to even see the junctions because the thread is so thin. What is your solution Pilou? πŸ˜‰

              oli

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                olishea
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                @willipop said:

                its going to take approximately 36h 😞:(:( both of my pc running on 2 different files. Jeez ! Hope i will be able to navigate in the file ^^

                Nope! πŸ˜†

                oli

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                  pilou
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                  If you want really ropes maybe only lines are sufficient (hide faces) or to map a transparent texture πŸ˜„

                  But I am not sure that the drawing of lines shown is the real one in reality?

                  http://sketchucation.com/forums/download/file.php?id=117797&t=1

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                    willipop
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                    Yes I have to show lines in reality ! I'd like to have the shadow casted too ! πŸ˜„ I think I will have to try with png texture or transparent texture ... I know that I can make shadow visible from the edges in sketchup but I'm sure if it'll work in kerkythea or artlantis on the rendering.

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                      willipop
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                      Is there a way to apply a texture and have the shadow from the edges without doing to seperate rendering ?

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                        mitcorb
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                        I think TIG's Image Trimmer cuts away the transparent portions of a texture?

                        I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                          Box
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                          You are running into the problems I mentioned way back with regard to file overload. While I like and can see benefits in using artizan I don't think it works for what you want.
                          It depends on what you really want but to me it doesn't produce a flowing net properly, it's too round and not a uniform construction. Nets are very regular in their form and are affected and controlled by tension and gravity.

                          Going back to the component method using tig's extrusion tools, this net is made from one component. The shape is very controllable, the size and position of the weave is easily changed by adjusting the nodes on the lines. Converting to tubes takes seconds. The file is 2.6mb, it can be navigated easily, slight lag with shadows turned on. Took a few minutes to make and renders in minutes.

                          Drawing out the overall support pylons and wires would give you most of the construction lines needed. But it may not be the style you want.


                          NetDrape Resize.jpg

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                            olishea
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                            That looks awesome box!!!!

                            Only issue is it's more angular than the photo...but to me it looks better, almost like it's creased into that shape when it's been hung.

                            How do the nets meet? Can you post a close-up?

                            With regards to texturing, I wouldn't bother if you can simply use the geometry effectively. Using 4 iteration of artisan is too much in nearly all cases and then adding tubes will completely freeze sketchup.

                            oli

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                              Box
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                              I can give you the model.

                              It's very quick, with a bit of work you could make something very detailed and neat. They don't actually join, I just made them straight along the edge so I could butt them together.
                              By making ones that fit to the support pylon on one side and are straight on the other you can put a bunch together and still only use a few components.
                              I wanted to create a quick version that showed the drape and tension but retained a relatively small file size.

                              I think I saved this version as SU8, if I remember correctly you are still in the past.


                              Net Drape1.skp

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                                willipop
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                                It looks amazing ! It's white just like I imagine it πŸ˜„ Is this a texture or it's lines converted to tubes ?

                                The problem is I can't use tig's extrusion tools, each time I'm having hard time, there's something I don't understand with this plugin... πŸ˜• can you upload the file Box ? Very nice job !

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                                  willipop
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                                  thx you very much ! I will explore your method today. My sketchup still running its 36h of working progress now lol, it makes no sens as you pointed earlier on.

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                                    Box
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                                    William, if you turn edges on in that model you'll find the lines I used to make the mesh, off to the side.
                                    Using EEbyR, click one side, then the top then the bottom and finish on the other side, then say no to everything that pops up and you will have the mesh.
                                    I used selection toys to select and remove the faces. Then converted to tubes, with 3sides and unsoftened them.

                                    If you can't follow that I can make a video if you want.

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                                      willipop
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                                      I'd love to ! if you have time πŸ˜„ What is selection toys ? thx again !

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                                        willipop
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                                        I did have succes o use EEbyR πŸ˜„ but how to chose the number of edges ( having more or less faces created ?)

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                                          pilou
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                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          The problem is I can't use tig's extrusion tools

                                          lequel exactement ? πŸ˜„

                                          Le truc Γ  savoir pour tous les outils Extrude de TIG

                                          Clic 1 = Profil
                                          Clic 2 = Rail 1
                                          Clic 3 = Rail 2
                                          Clic 4 = Profil de fin

                                          Quand il n'y a pas 2 rails ou 2 profils on clique quand mΓͺme sur le mΓͺme rail ou le mΓͺme profil pour avoir les 4 clics dans l'ordre! πŸ€“

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                                          http://forum.zbrush.fr/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1622.0;attach=24627;image

                                          Avantage des Extrudes de TIG!

                                          http://forums.polyloop.net/picture.php?albumid=23&pictureid=633

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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                                            Box
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                                            There are quite a few ways, but do you have Bezier tools, it give you the option to right click on a line and select polyline segmentor. Here you can type in the number of segments you want.

                                            Selection toys is a plugin by thomthom.

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