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    jeff hammond
    last edited by 5 Feb 2014, 18:48

    @arail1 said:

    @jeff hammond said:

    i'll do a site visit for one day, take measurements with a laser, and draw the building on the computer as i go.

    Completely OT - do you use a 3D laser or just a laser tape measure?
    I'm hoping this product will be the first reasonably priced 3D scanner for interiors -

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    Structure - The World's Leading Healthcare 3D Scanning Platform

    With the Structure Sensor, the future is in your hands. Rapid 3D scanning of objects and people, 3D maps of interior spaces, and mixed reality experiences where fantasy becomes impossible to tell from reality.

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    i use exactly this:

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    it was around $200 when i first got it.. probably cheaper now.

    i wonder about those scanners.. it would be great to have a scan of an interior which shows all of the imperfections (floor dips/ out of plumb walls/ etc) but at the same time, i'd also need a version which is 'perfect'.. 90º corners are drawn at 90º, walls are vertical, etc.. it's just easier to draw when perimeters etc are straight lines even if the actual building has a 1/2" bulge in a wall..
    but i guess i could just make a separate working file off the perfect scan in order to do all my layout lines.. how perfect are those things anyway? have you ever used one or used a file created by one?

    [EDIT] hmm.. looking back at the records, the bosch was $125.. it's the laser level i use during construction which was around $200.. (well, $254)
    http://www.dewalt.com/tools/lasers--instruments-self-leveling-line-lasers-dw089k.aspx

    (not sure if you're using one of those but they're definitely pretty sweet.. retail installs would benefit)

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      arail1
      last edited by 5 Feb 2014, 19:34

      No, I've not used one yet - the first production run is scheduled for the Spring (they did a Quickstarter campaign with a goal of raising $100,000 - they got 1.3 million)

      I think the dilemma is that there are $40,000 scanners that are exact to an absurd degree and then there are 'object' scanners - with little in between. This company is looking to fill the void.

      Like you, I need both the real dimensions and a geometrically perfect version of them. I'm doing drawings for a project at the Van Cortlandt House Museum right now and I have a red line model representing the out of plumb, out of level actual conditions with the the drawing of the new woodwork surrounding it in black. But my information for the actual is based on notes taken with tape measures, plumbs, levels, string, glue, luck and hope. And they're probably wrong.

      So I'm hoping this product delivers.

      Again, apologies to the OP for going OT.

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        jeff hammond
        last edited by 5 Feb 2014, 20:29

        @arail1 said:

        N I'm doing drawings for a project at the Van Cortlandt House Museum right now

        more off topic but..
        that's really cool working on a building like that.. i know it's probably not impressive to most of the world to have houses nearing 300 years old but in the u.s ..that's very old 😄

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          pbacot
          last edited by 5 Feb 2014, 20:47

          @arail1 said:

          @jeff hammond said:

          i'll do a site visit for one day, take measurements with a laser, and draw the building on the computer as i go.

          Completely OT - do you use a 3D laser or just a laser tape measure?
          I'm hoping this product will be the first reasonably priced 3D scanner for interiors -

          Link Preview Image
          Structure - The World's Leading Healthcare 3D Scanning Platform

          With the Structure Sensor, the future is in your hands. Rapid 3D scanning of objects and people, 3D maps of interior spaces, and mixed reality experiences where fantasy becomes impossible to tell from reality.

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          (structure.io)

          This is what we're looking for all along but I wonder at that price will it really deliver something usable? I was imagining a much more elaborate invention . Now they use phones (or pads) for everything!

          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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            arail1
            last edited by 5 Feb 2014, 21:09

            I pre-ordered one. Delivery is anticipated for Spring or February, depending on which web page you look at. I'll report back once it arrives and I've put it through it's paces.

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              jeff hammond
              last edited by 5 Feb 2014, 21:11

              @arail1 said:

              I pre-ordered one. Delivery is anticipated for Spring or February, depending on which web page you look at. I'll report back once it arrives and I've put it through it's paces.

              nice.. if you do a review of it here at scf, will you send me a pm with the link to the thread in case i miss i otherwise?
              thanks

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                jpalm32
                last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 13:29

                Can't find specs anywhere. What is the acurracy of the measurements? At what distance.
                No real info that I can find.
                Video doesn't work for me.

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                  mitcorb
                  last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 19:39

                  I have seen two different reports on Gizmag. The outdoors one had a range of 300 ft with accuracy stated somewhere like 1/8" (~3mm)
                  The indoors one indicated 30' range and probably the same accuracy.
                  Anything hand held is going to have reliability issues, especially with increasing range.

                  I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                    arail1
                    last edited by 6 Feb 2014, 20:50

                    @mitcorb said:

                    Anything hand held is going to have reliability issues, especially with increasing range.

                    Agreed. But measuring a complex interior with tape measures, plumb bobs and levels also has reliability issues. Like buying new software - the new rarely replaces the old, more often it takes it's place alongside the old.

                    We'll see in the Spring when the first production run happens.

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                      Mike Lucey
                      last edited by 7 Feb 2014, 10:57

                      Just did a check on where things stand with Rhino and VisualARQ for OSX. There is some progress!

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                      As regards VisualARQ, they say,

                      "We certainly are very interested in developing a VisualARQ version for Rhino OSX, but we won't be able to adapt our plugin to run with Rhino’s Mac version until that version is 100% ready. Once the definitive Rhino OSX version is released(), our development team will be able to determine how much work/time we need for adapting VisualARQ to the OSX system".*

                      Mike

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