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    • livemixerL Offline
      livemixer
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      @mike lucey said:

      I honestly don't think that the adverts we have here are obtrusive or too large. As a matter of interest we insist that they must be sub 150Kb in size. also not too 'flashy'. I would go as far to say that all are well designed and to my mind add a 'splash of colour' to the site.

      Just my 2¢:
      I don't mind static ad banners. I even agree (to some extent) that they add color & interest to the site. But the highly animated ones are very obtrusive; a constant, highly annoying distraction from the site's content and/or anything else I have running on my Mac that actually has a legitimate need to display dynamic content to attract my attention.

      The worst offenders are the ones that cycle through several completely different banner images to deliver their message. I think that sort of thing should be reserved for click throughs, or at the least set to cycle just once through all the images & then stop on a single, static one.

      As it is, they are the visual equivalent of the obnoxious, ridiculously loud TV ads that have me scrambling for the mute button on the TV … & resolving never to buy the products they tout.

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      • Mike LuceyM Offline
        Mike Lucey
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        Hi livemixer,

        Thanks for these comment and observations. I agree totally with you and do realise that there are two adverts in particular that could well fall into the category you mention. I also appreciate you speaking clearly on this matter which I have now resolved to 'clean up', so to speak.

        While we state in our BuySellAds page that we do not wish for 'flashing' ads I am afraid some advertisers feel that 'flashing' adverts attract more attention ...... as you you say, yes they do but they also annoy the viewer and can quickly get the viewers 'back up'!

        The TV advert analogy you mention is also so very correct! I keep the remote close to hand for the very same reason, those adverts that pump up the volume and annoy me!

        We do advise that we allow animated gifs and most are very smooth and IMO quite pleasant to view but as I say there are some the 'hurt the eye'.

        I will now contact the advertisers in question with the annoying and probably self defeating adverts and suggest that they revisit their adverts with a critical eye and redesign so that they are not annoying and probably far more productive.

        Thanks for this honest and well described opinion.

        Mike

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        • livemixerL Offline
          livemixer
          last edited by

          @mike lucey said:

          The TV advert analogy you mention is also so very correct! I keep the remote close to hand for the very same reason, those adverts that pump up the volume and annoy me!

          If you lived in the U.S., as of last December 13th you would theoretically never have to suffer through these overly loud ads again.

          That's when CALM (the Commercial Advertisement Loudness Mitigation Act) went into effect. It is now a violation of Federal law for average ad volume to exceed average program volume.

          Of course, in the real world the FCC depends on consumer complaints to identify offenders. Not many people know how to file a complaint, so it hasn't had as much effect as one might hope for.

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          • Mike LuceyM Offline
            Mike Lucey
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            Never heard about CALM, its a great idea. Thet should introduce something like it over here.

            My favourite current advert is the Heineken one with The Asteroids! It gets my feet tapping and shoulders shifting ..... don't laugh ....... at least its exercise or so I'm told as it burns 5 calories each time:D

            Check it out here, http://youtu.be/qiQj0o8BOYw

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            • soloS Offline
              solo
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              @unknownuser said:

              @mike lucey said:

              The TV advert analogy you mention is also so very correct! I keep the remote close to hand for the very same reason, those adverts that pump up the volume and annoy me!

              If you lived in the U.S., as of last December 13th you would theoretically never have to suffer through these overly loud ads again.

              That's when CALM (the Commercial Advertisement Loudness Mitigation Act) went into effect. It is now a violation of Federal law for average ad volume to exceed average program volume.

              Of course, in the real world the FCC depends on consumer complaints to identify offenders. Not many people know how to file a complaint, so it hasn't had as much effect as one might hope for.

              I think it's working very well, not sure who gets to manage it but with Time Warner cable I have noticed a significant improvement, I sometimes work into the wee hours of the morning with the TV on in the back ground and in the past adverts after midnight got louder (to wake up gits that fell asleep on the couch I guess) but ever since CALM came into effect I have not noticed adverts louder than the show they rudely interrupted.

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              • livemixerL Offline
                livemixer
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                @solo said:

                I think it's working very well, not sure who gets to manage it but with Time Warner cable I have noticed a significant improvement...

                We watch a mix of Time Warner cable & over-the-air TV programming available in the Dallas TX area. I noticed a big improvement in ads coming from network feeds but a lot of the locally originated OTA ones are still cranked up to 11.

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                • CutnoseC Offline
                  Cutnose
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                  @unknownuser said:

                  Here is the solution, which I just confirmed on my Windows machine.

                  There is a built-in site-blocking file on EVERY Windows machine, called the "hosts" file (no extension.) Macs may use a similar file. On my Windows XP machine, it is located in the following directory:

                  C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc

                  Look for the "hosts" file. Open it for editing with Notepad. Use <ctrl>-F, to open Notepad's "find" window, and search for "buysellads". (I found two instances in my hosts file.)

                  Append a "#" character to the beginning of the line. (This will cause the line to be treated as a comment line, rather than a valid block entry.)

                  My case:
                  ...
                  127.0.0.1 buytraffic.cn
                  127.0.0.1 s3.buysellads.com
                  127.0.0.1 stats.buysellads.com
                  127.0.0.1 buzzclick.com
                  ...
                  When edited:
                  ...
                  127.0.0.1 buytraffic.cn
                  #127.0.0.1 s3.buysellads.com
                  #127.0.0.1 stats.buysellads.com
                  127.0.0.1 buzzclick.com
                  ...
                  Save the file. Reload your browser. (I use Chrome, and don't have to reload. A page-refresh is sufficient.)

                  The problem: Uploaded images and attachments being stored at an internet address that is a recognized ad/spamming source.

                  Many ad-blocking programs revise the "hosts" file, as part of their blocking methodology. You can always edit yourself, if you encounter a website that is being blocked, and you need to permit access.

                  If SketchUcation is going to continue to use "buysellads" or comparable host for file storage, these instructions need to be posted as a "sticky"

                  -Taff

                  This eventually worked, but took near 5 hours to end up at given that no web search I attempted pointed me to either this thread or that post.

                  Hopefully now I can participate in the site and SketchUp somewhat better, and that the plugins between here and Ruby Library Depot can correct some of the issues I'm either causing or receiving.

                  Happy drafting.

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                  • N Offline
                    notareal
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                    I'd prefer hosts file to be clean and locked so that malware cannot change it. If you let any program to modify hosts... results can be surprising if you forgot it (or someone else uses computer that don't know that hosts file is modified). To protect hosts, you can take ownership of hosts. Then disable inheritance. Remove the modify permission from SYSTEM. Make sure you or even better a secondary administrator account only have full control on the file (don't mess with system if you don't know what to do).

                    For blocking certain domain/ IP - use a firewall or some DNS proxy can be used, like http://sourceforge.net/projects/acrylic/, http://www.peerblock.com or similar... and naturally for name resolution better use DNS, like usually, not a relic "hosts" file.

                    BTW Windows defender in Windows 8 may overwrite your hosts file entries, so better have also a firewall at "router level" on your network (keep in mind that NAT is not a firewall). If I have understood correctly in Windows 8 facebook.com and ad.doubleclick.net cannot be blocked by hosts file when defenter is used... might me more.

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                    • W Offline
                      winstonford
                      last edited by

                      If using AdBlock on Safari,
                      goto preferences > extension > adblock
                      check 'show me options..'
                      goto customize
                      paste below rule into the filter at the bottom and be sure to save:

                      @@http://sketchucation.com/$document

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        @winstonford said:

                        If using AdBlock on Safari,
                        goto preferences > extension > adblock
                        check 'show me options..'
                        goto customize
                        paste below rule into the filter at the bottom and be sure to save:

                        @@http://sketchucation.com/$document
                        Because SCF also links into 'buysellads.com' you'll probably also need to add that to your 'exceptions' list...

                        TIG

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          SketchUcation is free.
                          BUT it has to be paid for...
                          Servers etc all cost something.

                          SCF receives a modest income from its discreet advertising banners: however, the advertisers need some comfort that their adds are at least visible to members.

                          The 'terms of use' you agreed to when you became a member require you NOT to block advertising.
                          To ensure that you are reminded of your promise, if you have an ad-blocker app on your browser that is set to block SCF's ads, then in reply SCF blocks your ability to see forum attachments [i.e. files and images]...
                          So set your ad-block app to allow sketchucation.com AND buysellads.com [the latter is the company arranging the ads on SCF's behalf].
                          try emptying your browser's cache too...

                          If you still get missing attachments, then check your firewall settings also don't bar such things...

                          If this also fails please let us know and we can try to come up with some more suggestions... 😒

                          Many thousands of members successfully set up their connections to SCF without any difficulty, and then enjoy full access to all aspects of the forums...

                          The SCF ad-banners are carefully selected and all relate to services and applications relevant to SketchUp - commercial-plugins, renderers, CAD, 3d-printing and so on... So they can be a useful source of information too...

                          TIG

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                          • jojo9J Offline
                            jojo9
                            last edited by

                            Since i came back to the restyled forum, i saw and see no more zip's nor images of other users postings. I'm good equipped with plugins so i have no particular needs for plugins to download, but it would be -it would be- very nice to look also at images, if user concepts aren't so implicit to understand.
                            To adjust things, i tried to deactivate all me browser ad-blocking plugins, but nothing changed: Sketchucation continues to block me images and zips.

                            ? which relationship exists between advertisements and users attachments ?
                            it seems absurdly.

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                            • jojo9J Offline
                              jojo9
                              last edited by

                              Hi Tig and all other Moderators,
                              to put it in the right direction:
                              i've no problem with SCF ads. Really.
                              But what i do to change my situation, nothing changes. I de-activated all my safari-plugins, have no firewall protection and cleaned my browser cache. Some service is yet running, protecting me from spam but http://buysellads.com and SCF is on the whitelist. What can i do?

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                OK... can you post the exact 'whitelist' for sketchucation.com and buysellads.com ...
                                My ad-block entries are set like @@||sketchucation.com^$document etc...

                                Have you tried another browser like Chrome ?

                                TIG

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                                • jojo9J Offline
                                  jojo9
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi,

                                  not even Chrome changes displays me SCF attachments. So, it isn't the Browser to be the problem.
                                  i added sketchucation.com and buysellads.com to my firewall whitelist, then i cleaned the Cache. Unfortunately, nothing changed.

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Without access to your OS directly we have to guess here... 😕

                                    Failing in Chrome at least suggests it's not a browser add-on.
                                    Therefore it's either a firewall issue or perhaps some other app that you have running [like an anti-virus tool] that is blocking websites and therefore being interpreted by the SCF side as a deliberate ad-block...

                                    Have you done this:
                                    http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/using-mac-os-xs-builtin-firewall.html
                                    or
                                    http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-use-mac-os-x-snow-leopards-builtin-firewall.html
                                    or
                                    http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/should-you-use-a-firewall-with-os-x-mountain-lion.html

                                    | ehow.com

                                    favicon

                                    ehow.com (www.ehow.com)

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    The page you were looking for doesn't exist – OpenDNS

                                    favicon

                                    (support.opendns.com)

                                    etc...

                                    TIG

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                                    • G Offline
                                      Gábor
                                      last edited by

                                      @jojo9 said:

                                      Hi,

                                      not even Chrome changes displays me SCF attachments. So, it isn't the Browser to be the problem.
                                      i added sketchucation.com and buysellads.com to my firewall whitelist, then i cleaned the Cache. Unfortunately, nothing changed.

                                      May I ask if you're connected to the internet via a corporate network or not? If yes, is it possible that the corporate firewall blocks buysellads?

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                                      • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                        Mike Lucey
                                        last edited by

                                        Thanks TIG for spending so much time trying to sort out this problem for jojo9. At least having it documented may save time for others in the same predicament.

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                                        • jojo9J Offline
                                          jojo9
                                          last edited by

                                          @mike lucey said:

                                          Thanks TIG for spending so much time trying to sort out this problem for jojo9. At least having it documented may save time for others in the same predicament.

                                          i can't agree more as what Mike already said. I'm not the person who demands that somebody is jumping in for my requests right in the next moment, but ya.

                                          I organized my web browsing settings long time ago, to live a half-way relative secure browsing experience. Nobody likes the man in glass, now lesser than yet before. (…) 😆
                                          I forgot what i set up so carefully, but i modified several things, who aren't "standard" preventive methods, to block spam from the outside world.
                                          Time to go back and study what i modified.
                                          🤓

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                                          • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                            Mike Lucey
                                            last edited by

                                            @jojo9 said:

                                            I forgot what i set up so carefully, but i modified several things, who aren't "standard" preventive methods, to block spam from the outside world.
                                            Time to go back and study what i modified.
                                            🤓

                                            Or become a Premium Member and have the option of AB or not 😄

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