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      penumbra
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      Really well done nick. I can only imagine that Trimble is paying good attention to layout. The future looks bright.

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        pilou
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        Layouting at the top! β˜€

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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          porch_unplugged
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          Very nice Nick. 5 thumbs up out of five. πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘

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            pbacot
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            Nick,

            Enjoying the videos, though very envious of your skills!

            On Details, did you talk about notation? I didn't get how you worked that for re-use, or do you? Do you type in notes and add leaders each time ( I doubt) or scapbook them?

            Since your detail prototype files contain more than one scene / detail, then you look for a type of window (e.g.) not "window head, window sill" etc. That right?

            Beautiful work. Thanks for videos!

            Peter

            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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              Sekta
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              Nick,

              Great informative videos πŸ‘ πŸ‘ I took great pleaseure in showing these to my Revit technicians in the office....the ones always telling me that SU is a cartoon / toy suitable only for concept work, thier views have now changed somewhat 😲 😲

              A question I have relates to the various static models you have to generate various views like reflected ceiling plans and interior elevations. In a situation where you have to amend the main working model, how are these amendments managed / carried through the other models?

              It is great to hear Trimble are are talking to you Nick, as others have mentioned, hopefully we will see a serious detail design tool allowing all of us to take full advantage of the hardwork that goes into an SU model at concept and PD stage.

              Also, I see you use a tablet rather than a mouse, I would be interested to hear what the advantages are of using the tablet.

              Keep up the great work Nick πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘

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                pedrinalex
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                Hi Sonder:

                Me too be interested to use a tablet, i have a WACON BambooPen CTL-460, yes, i know is a litle tablet, but never i can use it in SU.

                Where do you learn to use your tablet.

                Pedro

                MB ASUS x99M-WS, Xeon e5 2695 v3, 64 GB RAM 2400, 2x gforce gtx 1060, 1 SSDH 1 tb & 3 HD 1 TB c/u

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                  penumbra
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                  Peter raises some good issues about detailing. the question that comes to mind is at what point do these details, as beautiful as they are, cross the line into "means and methods"? Is there a construction "feasibility" process that allows a contractor to, dare I say, come up with improved ways of detailing a structure. Is there a middle ground where the 3D sketch can be suggestive of design intent but stay on "this side" of the design line?

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                    sonder
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                    Thanks for all the kind words.

                    Regarding details, all the notation is done in LO. This still works as a library of sorts as you can simply copy the reference with the notation to another sheet. Since I structure them the way I do, I am generally copying whole sheets to new jobs depending on the construction type. Regarding infringement of means and methods, I have never considered architectural detailing to be an issue. As long as you are following real methods of construction you are fine. I do work with a lot of different contractors, and many of my details have developed based upon their installation techniques along with manufacturers installation manuals. Back in the day, I was also an avid reader of Architectural G&S.

                    As for the tablet, I use a Wacom Intuous 3. The biggest advantage is no fatigue, and you can orbit/ zoom simultaneously.

                    All the static models are simply updated, any time I make changes. I've made it just a part of my protocol when opening those files to update the reference.

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                      pedrinalex
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                      Ok.

                      Thanks Sonder.

                      I understand you, and I will try to follow your way to work (I loved it), but in my own "style" πŸ˜„, in my work experience I have never needed a plane with all the details, because I do not build my projects .

                      But I think it's a good time to do a project like yours.

                      Greetings and a big hug

                      Pedro

                      MB ASUS x99M-WS, Xeon e5 2695 v3, 64 GB RAM 2400, 2x gforce gtx 1060, 1 SSDH 1 tb & 3 HD 1 TB c/u

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                        mrstop
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                        Thanks for the excellent set of videos. I have just started playing around with layout and they are very helpful to understand the process.

                        You mention in the videos that you dimension to rough framing, which I get the reasons why. You say you do this by dimensioning inside of trim. In the Sketchup file, does trim also include drywall (or other wall finish( in addition to other trim-work? If so, are you modeling the drywall separately, or are you just pulling the dimensions back the amount equivalent to the drywall spec?

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                          sonder
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                          @mrstop said:

                          Thanks for the excellent set of videos. I have just started playing around with layout and they are very helpful to understand the process.

                          You mention in the videos that you dimension to rough framing, which I get the reasons why. You say you do this by dimensioning inside of trim. In the Sketchup file, does trim also include drywall (or other wall finish( in addition to other trim-work? If so, are you modeling the drywall separately, or are you just pulling the dimensions back the amount equivalent to the drywall spec?

                          While some may disagree, architectural drawings should only be drawn to the framing and dimensioned accordingly. These are the first elements that are constructed by the contractor and everything else - drywall, trim etc. is added to it. As an architect you need to be aware the impact those other elements have on a space so you draw taking them into consideration. Closets are a classic example. Typically you want a minimum of 24" clear on the inside, so you draw the walls spaced 25" to account for the drywall if 1/2" is used and 25 1/4" if 5/8' is used.

                          I do model trim in the model, which only serves a purpose on interior elevations and interior renderings. The thickness of the drywall does not impact those particular drawings.

                          I've personally witnessed the mess that showing drywall thickness has in the field. Most contractors cringe when they see it, because 1/4" scale drawings make it very difficult to see the intention of the architect.

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                            mrstop
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                            @unknownuser said:

                            While some may disagree, architectural drawings should only be drawn to the framing and dimensioned accordingly.

                            Thanks for the clarification. I just surmised from the detail and beauty of your drawings, you were including everything!

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                              sonder
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                              @mrstop said:

                              @unknownuser said:

                              While some may disagree, architectural drawings should only be drawn to the framing and dimensioned accordingly.

                              Thanks for the clarification. I just surmised from the detail and beauty of your drawings, you were including everything!

                              In the details, yes I do draw everything. Sorry, I should have clarified.

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                                markitekt
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                                Nick,
                                Would you have any of your scrapbooks publicly available? Seems like you've developed a nicely organized set.
                                Beautiful work.
                                Mark

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