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      Aerilius
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      @aerilius said:

      Unfortunately it works only for affine texture transformations

      As said, my own strategy only dealt well with affine transformations. I did some research and found the proper code below for affine/projective coordinate transformations with matrix calculation etc. Translated from C code to Ruby.

      Usage: get_texture_pins(face, side)

      • with side = true for frontface, false for backface
      • returns: Array of 4 Geom::Point3d
        Note: SketchUp dynamically places the texture pins where the user clicks, thus they can be translated about u/v +/-1

      May it be useful.

      
      ##
      # from;
      # Paul S. Heckbert, Fundamentals of Texture Mapping and Image Warping, 1989
      # pages 68-73
      
      ##
      # determinant of a 2x2 matrix
      #
      def det2(a, b, c, d)
        return a*d - b*c
      end #def det2
      
      
      
      ##
      # matrix multiply; c = a*b
      #
      def mx3_mul(a, b)
        c = [[],[],[]]
        c[0][0] = a[0][0]*b[0][0] + a[0][1]*b[1][0] + a[0][2]*b[2][0]
        c[0][1] = a[0][0]*b[0][1] + a[0][1]*b[1][1] + a[0][2]*b[2][1]
        c[0][2] = a[0][0]*b[0][2] + a[0][1]*b[1][2] + a[0][2]*b[2][2]
        c[1][0] = a[1][0]*b[0][0] + a[1][1]*b[1][0] + a[1][2]*b[2][0]
        c[1][1] = a[1][0]*b[0][1] + a[1][1]*b[1][1] + a[1][2]*b[2][1]
        c[1][2] = a[1][0]*b[0][2] + a[1][1]*b[1][2] + a[1][2]*b[2][2]
        c[2][0] = a[2][0]*b[0][0] + a[2][1]*b[1][0] + a[2][2]*b[2][0]
        c[2][1] = a[2][0]*b[0][1] + a[2][1]*b[1][1] + a[2][2]*b[2][1]
        c[2][2] = a[2][0]*b[0][2] + a[2][1]*b[1][2] + a[2][2]*b[2][2]
        return c
      end #def mx3_mul
      
      
      
      ##
      # transform point p by matrix a; q = p*a
      #
      def mx3d_transform(p, a)
        q = []
        q[0] = p[0]*a[0][0] + p[1]*a[1][0] + p[2]*a[2][0]
        q[1] = p[0]*a[0][1] + p[1]*a[1][1] + p[2]*a[2][1]
        q[2] = p[0]*a[0][2] + p[1]*a[1][2] + p[2]*a[2][2]
        return q
      end #def mx3d_transform
      
      
      
      ##
      # invert matrix
      #
      def mx_invert(a)
        b = [[],[],[]]
        b[0][0] = a[1][1]*a[2][2] - a[2][1]*a[1][2]
        b[0][1] = a[2][1]*a[0][2] - a[0][1]*a[2][2]
        b[0][2] = a[0][1]*a[1][2] - a[1][1]*a[0][2]
        b[1][0] = a[2][0]*a[1][2] - a[1][0]*a[2][2]
        b[1][1] = a[0][0]*a[2][2] - a[2][0]*a[0][2]
        b[1][2] = a[1][0]*a[0][2] - a[0][0]*a[1][2]
        b[2][0] = a[1][0]*a[2][1] - a[2][0]*a[1][1]
        b[2][1] = a[2][0]*a[0][1] - a[0][0]*a[2][1]
        b[2][2] = a[0][0]*a[1][1] - a[1][0]*a[0][1]
        return b
      end #dev mx_invert
      
      
      
      ##
      # pmap_square_quad;
      # find the mapping matrix for transforming a 
      # unit square [0,0], [1,0], [1,1], [0,1]
      # into a quad
      #
      def pmap_square_quad(face, front=true)
        tolerance = 0.000001
        tw = Sketchup.create_texture_writer
        uv_helper = face.get_UVHelper true, true, tw
        # four points of a square
        v0 = face.vertices[0].position
        v1 = face.vertices[1].position
        vec0 = v0.vector_to(v1)#.normalize ?
        v1 = v0 + vec0
        vec1 = (vec0 * face.normal)#.normalize ?
        v2 = v0 + vec0 + vec1
        v3 = v0 + vec1
        # their uvq
        if front==true
          uv0 = uv_helper.get_front_UVQ(v0)
          uv1 = uv_helper.get_front_UVQ(v1)
          uv2 = uv_helper.get_front_UVQ(v2)
          uv3 = uv_helper.get_front_UVQ(v3)
        else
          uv0 = uv_helper.get_back_UVQ(v0)
          uv1 = uv_helper.get_back_UVQ(v1)
          uv2 = uv_helper.get_back_UVQ(v2)
          uv3 = uv_helper.get_back_UVQ(v3)
        end
        uv0 = uv0.to_a.collect!{|x| x /= uv0[2]}
        uv1 = uv1.to_a.collect!{|x| x /= uv1[2]}
        uv2 = uv2.to_a.collect!{|x| x /= uv2[2]}
        uv3 = uv3.to_a.collect!{|x| x /= uv3[2]}
        # transformation from square to quad
        t=[[],[],[]]
        px = uv0.x - uv1.x + uv2.x - uv3.x
        py = uv0.y - uv1.y + uv2.y - uv3.y
         # affine
        if px.abs<tolerance && py.abs<tolerance # zero or near zero
        puts "affine"
          t[0][0] = uv1.x - uv0.x
          t[1][0] = uv2.x - uv1.x
          t[2][0] = uv0.x
          t[0][1] = uv1.y - uv0.y
          t[1][1] = uv2.y - uv1.y
          t[2][1] = uv0.y
          t[0][2] = 0
          t[1][2] = 0
          t[2][2] = 1
          return t
         # projective
        else
        puts "projective"
          dx1 = uv1.x - uv2.x
          dx2 = uv3.x - uv2.x
          dy1 = uv1.y - uv2.y
          dy2 = uv3.y - uv2.y
          del = det2(dx1, dx2, dy1, dy2)
          return nil if del==0
          t[0][2] = det2(px, dx2, py, dy2)/del
          t[1][2] = det2(dx1, px, dy1, py)/del
          t[2][2] = 1.0
          t[0][0] = uv1.x - uv0.x + t[0][2] * uv1.x
          t[1][0] = uv3.x - uv0.x + t[1][2] * uv3.x
          t[2][0] = uv0.x
          t[0][1] = uv1.y - uv0.y + t[0][2] * uv1.y
          t[1][1] = uv3.y - uv0.y + t[1][2] * uv3.y
          t[2][1] = uv0.y
          return t
        end
      end
      
      
      
      ##
      # convert a specific uvq into xyz of object coordinate system
      # opposite of UVhelper.get_front_UVQ([x,y,z])
      #
      def UVQ_to_XYZ(uvq, face, transformation)
        # origin point and two vectors in 3d coordinates
        v0 = face.vertices[0].position
        v1 = face.vertices[1].position
        vec0 = v0.vector_to(v1)#.normalize ?
        vec1 = (vec0 * face.normal)#.normalize ?
        # texture coordinates to 2d coordinates
        xyw = mx3d_transform(uvq, mx_invert(transformation))
        xyw.x /= xyw[2]
        xyw.y /= xyw[2]
        # 2d coordinates to 3d coordinates
        xyz = Geom;;Point3d.new()
        xyz.x = v0.x + vec0.x * xyw.x + vec1.x * xyw.y
        xyz.y = v0.y + vec0.y * xyw.x + vec1.y * xyw.y
        xyz.z = v0.z + vec0.z * xyw.x + vec1.z * xyw.y
        return xyz
      end #def UVQ_to_XYZ
      
      
      
      ##
      # get the object coordinates of the texture pins of a face (front, or back)
      #
      # Note that SketchUp places the texture pins near where the user right clicks 
      # to position the texture. This means it could also be translated;
      #  [m+0,n+0,1]
      #  [m+1,n+0,1]
      #  [m+1,n+1,1]
      #  [m+0,n+1,1]
      def get_texture_pins(face, front=true)
        Sketchup.active_model.start_operation "get texture pins"
        t = pmap_square_quad(face, front)
        pins = [ UVQ_to_XYZ([0,0,1], face, t),
                 UVQ_to_XYZ([1,0,1], face, t),
                 UVQ_to_XYZ([1,1,1], face, t),
                 UVQ_to_XYZ([0,1,1], face, t)
               ]
        # example; show pins with construction points
        pins.each{|p| Sketchup.active_model.entities.add_cpoint(p)}
        Sketchup.active_model.commit_operation
        return pins
      end #def get_texture_pins
      
      
      
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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
        last edited by

        That's very interesting.

        btw...

        @aerilius said:

        Note: SketchUp dynamically places the texture pins where the user clicks, thus they can be translated about u/v +/-1

        From what I see, that is only true if the texture has not been positioned. If the use has positioned the texture, then the pins appear where they where last placed.

        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
          last edited by

          Btw, where was that C code?

          Could be interesting to have that in a C Extension...

          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            Aerilius
            last edited by

            @unknownuser said:

            Btw, where was that C code?

            It's available as a pdf at the bottom of that page: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~ph/

            @thomthom said:

            If the use has positioned the texture, then the pins appear where they where last placed.
            I tested it again. It's true, when the user has changed the pins from their default positioning, they stick fixed. But still the uvq sometimes don't match the pins (once I got [-1,0,1] for the red pin).

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              thomthom
              last edited by

              You sure you don't need the fourth in order to get the skew and distortion?

              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                Aerilius
                last edited by

                I suddenly got a bit more understanding of what we actually do here... 💭

                So this whole code is actually much simpler. SketchUp gives us a Q coordinate (that we didn't use so far). In fact we don't need a 4×4 transformation matrix (rectangle ←→ quadrilateral), but a 3×3 matrix is enough. That means we can get rid of very expansive calculations and even use SketchUp's native Geom::Transformation (which is 3×3). All the details in the code below and in this thread:

                
                module AE;end # (replace this by your author/company namespace!)
                
                
                class AE;;UVHelper
                
                
                # This initializes our UVHelper. It calculates the transformation matrix between
                # model space (XYZ) and texture space (UVQ). We also create an instance of SketchUp;;UVHelper
                # for faster conversion from model to texture space (but it can't do the reverse).
                #
                # @param [Sketchup;;Face] face The face on which we want to convert coordinates.
                # @param [Sketchup;;Face] on_front True if you want the texture coordinates for the front face, false if not. Defaults to true.
                # @param [Sketchup;;Face] on_back True if you want the texture coordinates for the back face, false if not. Defaults to true.
                # @param [Sketchup;;TextureWriter] tw A TextureWriter object.
                #
                # @return [AE;;UVHelper]
                def initialize(face, on_front=true, on_back=true, tw=Sketchup.create_texture_writer)
                  @face = face
                  ### Get the native UVHelper for for conversion from XYZ to UVQ.
                  @uvh = face.get_UVHelper(on_front, on_back)
                  ### Get a transformation matrix for UVQ to XYZ.
                  # Since every quadrilateral can be understood as a perspectivic projection of a 3d rectangle,
                  # we do not need to find a transformation [square <-> quadrilateral] (4x4 matrix) but only an
                  # affine transformation in 3d space (3x3 matrix, can use Geom;;Transformation!).
                  #
                  # Get 3 points of a square of size 1*1. It spans a local 2d space of the face's plane (XY).
                  p0 = face.vertices[0].position
                  p1 = face.vertices[1].position
                  vec01 = p0.vector_to(p1).normalize
                  p1 = p0 + vec01
                  vec12 = (vec01 * face.normal)
                  p2 = p1 + vec12
                  # For one side of the face
                  get_transformation = Proc.new{|side|
                    # Get their uvq
                    uvq = [p0,p1,p2].collect{|p|
                      get_UVQ(p, side)
                    }
                    # Get the transformation of the between model space (XYZ) and the face (XY).
                    txyz = Geom;;Transformation.axes(p0, vec01, vec12, face.normal) # * scaling(1)
                    # Get the transformation of the between the face (XY) and UVQ.
                    # Since we have input a square, it corresponds to a rectangle in UVQ space
                    # and we may use an axes transformation (that's why 3 points are enough).
                    vecuvq01 = uvq[0].vector_to(uvq[1])
                    vecuvq12 = uvq[1].vector_to(uvq[2])
                    vecuvqn = vecuvq01*vecuvq12
                    tuvq = Geom;;Transformation.axes(uvq[0], vecuvq01, vecuvq12, vecuvq01*vecuvq12) *
                           Geom;;Transformation.scaling(ORIGIN, vecuvq01.length, vecuvq12.length, 1)
                    # The combined transformation from texture space to model space.
                    t = txyz * tuvq.inverse
                    # The projection plane (necessary if confronted with UV and Q=1)
                    plane = [uvq[0], vecuvqn]
                    [t, plane]
                  }
                  @t_front_uvq2xyz = @t_back_uvq2xyz = Geom;;Transformation.new()
                  @plane_front = @plane_back = [ORIGIN, Z_AXIS]
                  @t_front_uvq2xyz, @plane_front = get_transformation.call(true) if on_front
                  @t_back_uvq2xyz, @plane_back = get_transformation.call(false) if on_back
                end
                
                
                # Wrapper method for Sketchup;;UVHelper (more useful with front/back Boolean)
                #
                # @param [Geom;;Point3d, Array] xyz A point in model space.
                # @param [Boolean] on_front Whether you want the texture coordinates for the front face or the back face.
                #
                # @return [Geom;;Point3d] Point The corresponding point in texture space (UVQ).
                def get_UVQ(xyz, on_front=true)
                  return (on_front)? @uvh.get_front_UVQ(xyz) ; @uvh.get_back_UVQ(xyz)
                end
                
                
                # Get the coordinates in model space from given coordinates in texture space.
                #
                # @param [Geom;;Point3d, Array] uvq A point in texture space (UV or UVQ).
                # @param [Boolean] on_front Whether you want the model coordinates for the front face or the back face.
                #
                # @return [Geom;;Point3d] Point The corresponding point in model space (XYZ).
                def get_XYZ(uvq, on_front=true)
                  # If the input is a 2d texture coordinate (UV with Q==1) it may not lay on the 
                  # projection plane and our transformation won't work with a 3x3 matrix. 
                  # Thus find the correct Q value on the projection plane.
                  vec_q = [uvq[0]*2, uvq[1]*2, (uvq[2]||1)*2]
                  uvq = Geom.intersect_line_plane([uvq, vec_q], (on_front)? @plane_front ; @plane_back)
                  return uvq.transform((on_front)? @t_front_uvq2xyz ; @t_back_uvq2xyz)
                end
                
                
                # Get the coordinates in model space from given coordinates in texture space.
                #
                # @param [Geom;;Point3d, Array] Point A point in texture space (UV or UVQ).
                # @param [Boolean] on_front Whether you want the texture pins for the front face or the back face.
                #
                # @return [Geom;;Point3d] Point The corresponding point in model space (XYZ).
                def get_texture_pins(on_front=true)
                  pins = [ get_XYZ([0,0,1], on_front),
                           get_XYZ([1,0,1], on_front),
                           get_XYZ([1,1,1], on_front),
                           get_XYZ([0,1,1], on_front),
                         ]
                  # example; show pins with construction points
                  Sketchup.active_model.start_operation "get texture pins"
                  pins.each{|p| Sketchup.active_model.entities.add_cpoint(p)}
                  Sketchup.active_model.commit_operation
                  return pins
                end #def get_texture_pins
                
                
                end
                
                
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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  SketchUp's Texture Pins

                  get_texture_pins


                  Sample Model

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                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    Aerilius
                    last edited by

                    Hmm, about skewing I'm not sure, but I see it works without. I think for 4 points there are 8 degrees of freedom (? 4*[U,V] if Q=1 is constant). With varying Q it works also with 3 points 3*[U,V,Q]=9 (?).

                    Edit: I haven't experienced before what your image/skp shows. One construction point is across the inversion horizont of the texture (where it grows after shrinking). I have to see what can be done...

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
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                      When you position a texture SketchUp let you provide the following Point3d and UV pairs:

                      1x : Position
                      2x : Position and Scale Uniform
                      3x : Position and Skew
                      4x : Perspective Distortion

                      So for the reverse one does need all four points as well - without it you lose the data.

                      Many render engines struggle with SketchUp's distorted textures - mainly because they read the UV data from the vertices of the face. That fails when a triangle has a distorted texture applies. And it is why SU's UV mapping methods accepts 3D points that are on the plane of the face instead of using the vertices.

                      Several render engines works around it by triangulating the mesh and reading the texture for each triangle - it doesn't give correct UV map though - as they only read 3 point they only get a skewed map. For some geometry you hardly notice it, but other times it is very visible.

                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        Aerilius
                        last edited by

                        But since a texture is 2d, it has 8 degrees of freedom on the plane. You need four points with 2d coordinates (UV) to sufficiently define texture position/skew/distortion. With 3d texture coordinates, we have already enough data in three 3d points (UVQ) (the third Q coordinate contains the missing info).

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                          thomthom
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                          @aerilius said:

                          With 3d texture coordinates, we have already enough data in three 3d points (UVQ) (the third Q coordinate contains the missing info).

                          I never worked out how to use that value... I tried asking the SketchUppers - but there feedback hasn't really provided anything...

                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            renderiza
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                            I am so frustrated that I don’t possess the knowledge yet to understand most of this discussion. Correct me if I am wrong but could this code make animating textures possible? If so I am very interested in trying to figure how I can do this myself.

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