[Plugin] CleanUp

thomthom · 1 Jan 2012, 13:21

I see you also have files such as:

extensions.rb
sketchup.rb

These are files that comes with SketchUp and they should be in the Tools folder. I think there might have been a time where they did come in the Plugins folder, but that's a while back. So if you have copied your plugins folder every time you have upgraded SketchUp you have dragged along these old files. And that means that SU loads the old versions you have in the Plugins folder instead of the more recent ones in the Tools folder.

Your plugins folder definitely needs some cleaning up.

john2 · 1 Jan 2012, 14:09

well i didnt delete those files..just deleted ttlib and ttlib2 folders, reinstalled from the net and cleanup is working fine now

thomthom · 1 Jan 2012, 14:27

@john2 said:

well i didnt delete those files..just deleted ttlib and ttlib2 folders, reinstalled from the net and cleanup is working fine now

TT_Lib - version 1.x - is only related to Selection Toys. TT_Lib2 does not replace it.

But you really should clean up your plugins folder - as them files I mentioned should not be there and can cause issues.

irwanwr · 4 Jan 2012, 13:24

hi Thomas,

i'd like to ask about what could probably went wrong when i got this later,
the interface look a bit messy.

and how to prevent it to happen ever again later.
thank you, Thomthom.

thomthom · 4 Jan 2012, 13:40

What version of Internet Explorer do you have?

irwanwr · 4 Jan 2012, 14:04

Internet Explorer version 6.0.2900.5512.xpsp.080413-2111

that was related to IE version? i have 7 and 8. but uninstalled them.

thomthom · 4 Jan 2012, 14:16

@irwanwr said:

Internet Explorer version 6.0.2900.5512.xpsp.080413-2111

that was related to IE version? i have 7 and 8. but uninstalled them.

Keep your Internet Explorer updated. While you might not use IE as a browser, the IE Engine is embedded into the system. Many applications make use the the IE engine for various reasons - such as SketchUp that uses it for WebDialogs. IE6 is dead - and MS is aggressively phasing out any older versions of IE. They will soon start to auto update users. As of version 9 IE becan to catch up with other browsers and with the coming IE10 they will have done a great leap. This means that we( developers ) can make more powerful thing. But to do so we must be able to ignore these older versions of IE - they are a royal pain in the rear end. I've had my share of IE frustrations as a former webdeveloper - but I still suffer from it as I make webdialogs UI for SketchUp plugin. But I'm dropping support for older IE version - I really do not have the time to address them.

Another reason to keep your IE up to date is that it makes your system more secure considering how integrated the IE engine is into the OS. So just make life easier for yourself and us developers and keep your IE up to date.

irwanwr · 4 Jan 2012, 14:23

i see. thank you Thomas.
btw, i only have IE 7 and 8 at the moment. which one would you suggest to install?
with XP SP3 i'm afraid i cannot follow IE 9?

thomthom · 4 Jan 2012, 14:31

Update to the latest version available. That's best practice with any kind of software as it ensure you have all the fixes available for you.

irwanwr · 4 Jan 2012, 14:58

it looks great now.
i reinstalled XP after it crashed. when i left home for three months. didn't know who did it.
i thought there's no point of reinstalling IE 8 again. since i don't use it anyway.
sorry for bothering you, Thomas.
thank you Thomas.

thomthom · 4 Jan 2012, 15:04

No problem - glad it's working for you now.

Brucifier · 12 Jan 2012, 07:29

Where has the cleanup plugin gone too, says it has been removed?!

thomthom · 12 Jan 2012, 08:34

@brucifier said:

Where has the cleanup plugin gone too, says it has been removed?!

Sorry, I'd forgotten to update the link of the Download button at last update. I fixed it now. The link underneath was always working however.

Brucifier · 12 Jan 2012, 12:43

@thomthom said:

@brucifier said:

Where has the cleanup plugin gone too, says it has been removed?!

Sorry, I'd forgotten to update the link of the Download button at last update. I fixed it now. The link underneath was always working however.
cheers!!

ken · 12 Jan 2012, 13:54

Thomthom

The heading indicates there is a Cleanup (3.1.8) However the file downloaded indicates Cleanup (3.1.7). Just a heads up that maybe you don't have the latest plugin in your first post.

Ken

thomthom · 12 Jan 2012, 14:11

@unknownuser said:

The heading indicates there is a Cleanup (3.1.8) However the file downloaded indicates Cleanup (3.1.7). Just a heads up that maybe you don't have the latest plugin in your first post.

Right, I re-uploaded. with a minor update that adds support for Fredo's update checker.

Thanks for the heads up!

Version 3.1.9

Support for Fredo's Update checking utility

brodie · 12 Jan 2012, 17:07

An issue I've had with the past couple version is with the plugin deleting faces. I don't recall having this issue with the first version. Do I have an incorrect setting checked or something?

-Brodie

thomthom · 12 Jan 2012, 17:18

The Merge Faces features should be the most stable ever in this version (3.x).
But maybe it's an issue with Erase Duplicate Faces. It's a very slow feature that can yield unpredictable results. It's why it is off by default and the tooltip has the warning.

Ticking all the checkboxes doesn't mean the model gets cleaner - it just does different thing. So it's worth reading what they actually do.

I don't know what settings you have Brodie, so it's hard for me to tell anything more than that. If you have settings and a sample model I can have a look at it.

brodie · 12 Jan 2012, 17:33

Here's the model and a screenshot of the settings below.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/384281/Laser%20Printer.skp

The number and location of faces which are deleted seems to have a certain random nature to it. Running the script, undoing the results, and running the script again a few times resulting in different results each time

-Brodie

Edit: the original model is from here and is free http://archive3d.net/?a=download&id=3dfc187e

thomthom · 12 Jan 2012, 18:36

Ok, looked at the model.

The first thing I got when I opened the model was a warning:

@unknownuser said:

Results of Validity Check.

The plane equation for CFace (51806) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (61254) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (145402) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (146979) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (149505) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (230859) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (297112) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (297293) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (299305) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (311352) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (316611) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (333176) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (333255) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (333707) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (395589) is not valid - fixed

I did not run the test - SU did that manually.

I then ran CleanUp with these settings:

A key setting might be that I didn't tell it to Ignore Normals. (Not sure - I did not compare with other settings.)

I then got a new validity check (because I'd asked for it. it's common to get error like this when the model already was producing errors.)

@unknownuser said:

Results of Validity Check.

CEdge (62898) and CEdge (1380179) connect the same 2 vertices - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (1044) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (1425) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (2564) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (2604) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (2954) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (3000) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (3827) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (5067) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (5382) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (5702) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (7542) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (92317) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (93266) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (108967) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (212162) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (212355) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (213151) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (213681) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (213868) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (246903) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (271394) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (293150) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (293557) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (484265) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (484587) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (491934) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (542762) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (543339) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (549098) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (549228) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (575761) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (576252) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (576379) is not valid - fixed
The plane equation for CFace (577820) is not valid - fixed

The printer model dropped from ~100K (!!! ) faces to "merely" 38K faces...

No error messages about lost geometry.