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    • daleD Offline
      dale
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      The past month has been so hectic, that as I noted previously, I just haven't had the time for proper posting.
      Aside from managing to get my fascia and roof on, I have been acting as the gopher for the stone mason.
      Introducing, "he who cannot be named" himself, in "The Chronicles of a full masonry fireplace".Herb.png
      Don't let those sad eyes fool you, this 73 year old German trained mason is a taskmaster, but master is the operative part of this statement as well.
      This is the 3rd fireplace he has built for us, and if you have ever had one, they are hard to live without. In the end the 40,000 lb (18,200 kg) monster will keep the entire house warm in the case of power failures.
      But it has to start somewhere: Judy shoveling in one of the 15 or so truckloads of sand.Judy and the sand.png
      Starting at the base of the rough in, and following through with the Hearth, which cantilevers into the building.The Base rough in.pngRough in 2.png


      Rough in 3.png


      Hearth rough in.png

      Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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        dale
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        Continuing on to the fire box, which, if you are familiar with fireplaces, is similar to a Rumford with it's sloping back and sides, but much deeper. This is done to make the smoke shelf more effective. In the real world it means the front of the fireplace doesn't get blackened, as it virtually never smokes unless there is extreme downdraft conditions.Firebox 1.png
        Notice the firebricks are set with there 9" depth perpendicular to the fire box. It takes more firebricks this way, but is less likely to crack, and way more efficient at maintaining heat.firebox 2.png
        Apologies over the quality of some photos, as they were quick iphone shots.
        Next is the firebox with the steel damper in place.Firebox and damper.png
        Interior rough in complete.Interior rough in complete.png
        Then it was putting the flagstone onto the hearth. The hearth is about 18"(45 cm) off the floor. This is so when you sit in front of the fire, you are looking right at it, and the heat is reflecting off those sloped sides and back, right at your body.Hearth flagstone.pngHearth 2.png

        Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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        • daleD Offline
          dale
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          With the weather holding, we moved outside to take advantage of this.
          Chimney flue through the roof.
          He angles the first part of his flues, as he says it causes the smoke to be pulled faster up the chimney.Cimney flue sm.png and reaching above the roof.Chimney above roof.png

          To be continued.
          Cheers
          Dale

          Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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          • daleD Offline
            dale
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            Next we started the actual stone work with river stone that we had gathered.Start exterior stone.png
            And continued to the soffit.[attachment=3:2ipzng5w]<!-- ia3 -->ExTerior stone to soffit.png<!-- ia3 -->[/attachment:2ipzng5w]
            Stone above roof.[attachment=1:2ipzng5w]<!-- ia1 -->Screen shot 2011-10-16 at 7.36.11 AM.png<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:2ipzng5w][attachment=2:2ipzng5w]<!-- ia2 -->stone above roof.png<!-- ia2 -->[/attachment:2ipzng5w]
            And pouring the cap.[attachment=0:2ipzng5w]<!-- ia0 -->Screen shot 2011-10-16 at 7.38.12 AM.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:2ipzng5w]


            EXTerior stone to soffit.png


            stone above roof.png


            Screen shot 2011-10-16 at 7.36.11 AM.png


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            • daleD Offline
              dale
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              Then the interior stone work. This shows the arch form with beginning of stone placement for the arch.arch.png
              I laminated 4" Douglas fir for the mantle.Building the mantle.png
              A shot showing the quarter sawn grain of the Fir.Edge grain of d-fir.png
              Mounting the mantle.Screen shot 2011-10-16 at 7.49.55 AM.png

              Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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              • J Offline
                JuanV.Soler
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                German trained mason, a taskmaster,...
                ...73 year old ๐Ÿ‘
                you will be fine inside your home in those stormy and cold days Dale ๐Ÿ˜‰

                ,))),

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                • ely862meE Offline
                  ely862me
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                  ๐Ÿ‘ WOW

                  Got to say this is really impressive !! I love how clean the work is ! Good luck with finishing it and living in it!

                  How are the outer rocks of the chimney held in place ? I have the impression they are not only held by concrete .

                  Cheers!

                  Elisei (sketchupper)


                  Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                  Come and See EliseiDesign

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                  • jarynzlesaJ Offline
                    jarynzlesa
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                    where is the stonehenge? I don't know, but I know that somebody can create a lot of beautiful things with stones.
                    keep up dale thumb up ๐Ÿ‘ .

                    http://www.vizualizaceschodiste.mypage.cz/

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                    • daleD Offline
                      dale
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                      Juan, Elisel, Jaryn
                      Thanks for the encouragement.
                      Amongst the moments of excitement, there are moments when I question my sanity.
                      But on a piece like this, there is so much personal involvement when you have shovelled the sand and collected the stone, everything has a story.
                      Anyway, for the final on the fireplace, the exterior stone completed.Screen shot 2011-10-17 at 7.09.47 AM.png
                      And the first fire, a tribute to the mason and accompanied with a nice glass of red wine.Screen shot 2011-10-17 at 7.12.58 AM.png

                      Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                      • AnssiA Offline
                        Anssi
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                        In Finland, it has also been customary to have a little "first fire" celebration. Traditionally all the smoke from the fireplace comes in until the master mason has been given his vodka. Then he goes up on the roof and drops a little stone in the chimney to break the thin glass he has placed there.

                        Good luck to your project

                        Anssi

                        securi adversus homines, securi adversus deos rem difficillimam adsecuti sunt, ut illis ne voto quidem opus esset

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                        • daleD Offline
                          dale
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                          Anssi
                          Our mason told us this exact ritual, although apparently the schnapps in Germany had to be accompanied by the monies owing, or the glass remained.

                          Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                            dale
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                            We got a spell of great weather at the end of the fireplace construction, so we managed to get the steel roofing on as well.
                            Unloading the pallets. Screen shot 2011-10-19 at 6.49.26 AM.png
                            Flashing detail.Screen shot 2011-10-19 at 6.49.56 AM.png
                            Laying the steel.Screen shot 2011-10-19 at 6.47.16 AM.png

                            Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                              dale
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                              Yesterday was a big day, as with the main floor hydronic pipes in place we poured the upper floor.Screen shot 2011-10-19 at 7.02.38 AM.pngScreen shot 2011-10-19 at 7.02.55 AM.png


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                              Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                              • daleD Offline
                                dale
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                                This house has had its share of wildlife incidents.
                                On the way back from picking up our plumbing fixtures we saw this wolf on the highway.
                                Maybe these are good omens.Screen shot 2011-10-19 at 7.11.02 AM.pngScreen shot 2011-10-19 at 7.11.09 AM.png


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                                  dale
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                                  We did a gridwork of 2'x2' cuts with a diamond saw in the concrete floor,Screen shot 2011-10-24 at 7.33.41 AM.png
                                  And then applied a Padre brown Scofield acid stain yesterdayScreen shot 2011-10-24 at 7.34.27 AM.png
                                  And washed it down last evening.Screen shot 2011-10-24 at 7.34.43 AM.png
                                  The recommendation is to let the concrete cur for at least 14 days, but I have found you get a deeper richer color if you stain quite quickly after placement.
                                  The color doesn't really show its potential until the clear finish is applied, and I am waiting until I can warm the floor with the hydronics before I do that, which should be complete today.
                                  Cheers!

                                  Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                                  • daleD Offline
                                    dale
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                                    Another from SketchUp to Reality shot, or how I work things out with skp.
                                    We would like to put in a concrete counter top in the small main floor guest bath, and we would like it to wrap down, come across the floor, and come up to form a bench in the shower.
                                    I modeled it in skp and rendered in Thea, so we could play with the idea.
                                    Why I love SketchUp (and Thea).Screen shot 2011-10-25 at 6.57.30 AM.png


                                    Screen shot 2011-10-25 at 7.10.25 AM.png

                                    Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                                      dale
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                                      We're in the slogging process now, with things like electrical and plumbing rough in completions, all the hydronics completed and in place, final little framing bits, and insulation and vapour barrier.
                                      Not the stuff that is greatly photogenic, but part of the process.
                                      Framing and electrical rough in.Screen shot 2011-11-09 at 6.25.50 AM.png
                                      Temporary stairs Screen shot 2011-11-09 at 6.25.27 AM.png
                                      Geo-exchange unit in and running. House is warm with only two small zones on.Screen shot 2011-11-09 at 6.26.02 AM.png
                                      Insulation to R-44 in the roof, and everything above the ICF walls will have a staggered stud system with a combination of R-22 and R-12. Although this photo doesn't show it, all the headers are also insulated.Screen shot 2011-11-09 at 6.26.28 AM.png
                                      This is the point where everything seems like it's taking too long, but I know I'm just impatient to move in the tools and start to do the finish work. So we just keep on plodding along!
                                      Cheers

                                      Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                                      • simon le bonS Offline
                                        simon le bon
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                                        Dear Dale,

                                        Excuse me for not coming back earlier to watch the progress of the building.
                                        I just have read all the five pages and 71 posts of this thread!!
                                        It was quite difficult to follow because of the technical language of construction. At the same time it was nicely instructive and exciting as a true story.
                                        It's amazing the work you have done. ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                                        We can easily imagine how you will live in harmony with the house. Making a home is perhaps the oldest thing in the world but that no one does anymore, except you. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                        • I had particularly be attracted by your kitchen project: original and beautiful.
                                        • I had loved the house made for birds: like a reduction as strong and neat of the big one.

                                        I have been surprised all along by the techniques used in the building process and by some design principles that I have never seen applied at home.

                                        As I believe to understand, the key word is this:
                                        "We Can Get down to -40 here"
                                        All these techniques are playing in the fight against the cold!

                                        • The Quad-Lock system like Lego to make a perfectly insulated walls:
                                          "Quad-Lock has the highest available insulation" " A Quad-Lock building is Ultra Energy-Efficient because of continuous EPS Insulation"

                                        • Everything above the ICF walls: the upper floors are made with wood, also well known as a good insulator. I never see that melting for the walls here. Why walls are not completely done with icf?

                                        http://forums.sketchucation.com/download/file.php?id=74866&t=1

                                        • "The ground source Geo-exchange system was a big project"
                                          An incredible project I would say! Pipes under the ground:
                                          "We put in 1800 lineal feet (548 m) which required us to dig trenches about 6'(1.8 m) deep x 10'(3 m)",
                                          and how many lineal feet of pipes have you put inside the concrete floors..?
                                          You had to strongly believe in this technique to invest such efforts and money ! May be I have to consider this at home?

                                        • The insulated roof covered with galvanized sheet metal rather than tiles, I presume to withstand the snow and allow it to slip.

                                        • by the end, the incredible nice construction of the fire place, built almost like a separate building. the chimney built outside the house (I don't know why: don't you lost some warm by this way ?). I only find strange you haven't installed an insert as heat recovery.

                                        About the technique "to acid stain the floors" I've never seen this practiced at home. It sounds quite simple, beautiful and cheap.

                                        What I also find human and beautiful with your story is that everything is underlain by the arrival of winter. It's a race against time.
                                        "Winter strikes hard and fast here, and I am really pushing to not get caught."

                                        Dear Dale and Judy, what you do is great and I wish you all the best in your house and the land surrounding it.

                                        very friendly as you know,

                                                               simon.
                                        
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                                          pilou
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                                          From dreams to reality! ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿ‘

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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                                          • daleD Offline
                                            dale
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                                            Hello Simon
                                            It is always a pleasure to have your input.
                                            You make some very good points, and one, about why walls aren't done completely with ICF is one of those choices that you make on a building.
                                            The reason I chose this route is that it there are two complications with any of the walls that rise above the roof on this building. The first is there are lots of windows in them, and because of the groupings of windows particularly the front Living room (steeper pitch) section it ends up mostly windows. In a situation like this it is really important to get the concrete to completely flow around and encase the window. In some of the small spaces that I had to deal with this would hve been next to impossible.
                                            The second is concrete lintels. These are the "beams" that run over the windows. Again given their size, and the amount of reinforcing steel required, as they are holding the roof loads, it makes them very difficult to do.
                                            Having said that in retrospect, I would most probably have brought the wall at the front of the Kitchen up, if I were to do it again, as there would have been enough room around the windows to have done this, and it would have saved some complex framing.
                                            The pipes within the floor are run at 6" intervals in most of the house, and 12 in areas that we didn't want a lot of heat.
                                            There is well over 3000 lineal ft (914 m) of pipes in the floor.(at about 70 cents per foot)
                                            This is recommended when using the geoexchange system, because the warmer the water returns to the machine, the more efficient the machine is. Given the efficiency of the machine, and the cost of electricity, I expect to recover the difference in cost over the system I would have put in in 4 years.
                                            The fireplace actually has a layer of 2" styrofoam which connects to the exterior Quadlock, and encases the fireplace between the rough in concrete blocks and the finished stone.
                                            WE had to argue quite hard to be allowed to do this as code does not allow combustible material within 1" (2.5cm) of the fireplace. At the closest point the styrofoam is 2' (.61m) away from the firebox, so I don't think this would burn. I won't deny though that having the full masonry in the house would have been better. Although we look at several different interior locations, in the end this worked better for us.
                                            We tried several different placements of the fireplace, but in the end.
                                            I am currently designing a house for a client that will be Quadlock (#21 Quadlock house I believe)
                                            and I will be adjusting things from what I learned from this one.

                                            We are awaiting the drywallers, and I can say this thread will get quite active at that point, as I will move my woodshop into the house and start building the doors, cabinets, and millwork.
                                            That in my mind is truly where the fun begins.

                                            Cheers Simon and Pilou and thanks for the kind thoughts.

                                            PS Simon... Been to any good concerts lately?

                                            Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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