DynaScape's NEW 3DSketch subscription service.
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Hi Guys,
Just finished having a good look around DynaScape's new 3DSketch site. The subscription site offers the SketchUp using architect, building designer and more particularly landscape architects and designers a great new resource.
The site is packed with 2D (370) and 3D (815) models which just about covers everything required for site / plot design by way of trees, plants, shrubs etc. The models are compact in file size and should not overly burden SU. The list is also continuously growing also.
I must admit that I only know the names of a couple of dozen trees and shrubs let alone the official Latin names. DynaScape is slowly educating me in this area. Its should appeal to landscape designers looking for accurate tree /scrub representations!
The tree / shrub models are constructed using photo images and look quite realistic yet at the same time 'SketchUpy'!
I attach an image of one such sample model, Cornus alba elegan - variegated dogwood, see what I mean about being educated in the official Latin names! I also attach a close-up of the leaf showing the photo texture and I think you will agree a good balance has been struck!
Now I come to the PAY part! 3DSketch is a subscription service and the initial year's sign up costs $695 and $100 per year after that. Its not a low cost but when a little bit of math is done, each model works out on average .5 cent each ..... good value indeed!
The links are,
http://www.dynascape.com/sketch3D.html
Free Samples,
https://sketch3d.dynascape.com/Components/Components.aspx?ShowFree=trueMike
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Nice Mike. I posted this a while back as well - http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=37225&p=328320&hilit=dynascape#p328320
I own the CAD software Dynascape and the Color Module, but haven't sprung for the Sketch 3D subscription yet. I felt the collection wasn't quite "photoreal" enough for closeup shots, although the 3D library is quite extensive and has all the "key" elements a landscape designer would need.
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Thanks for the comments Earthmover. We have made every attempt in our vegetation models to balance a quality appearance with low face count, small file size to fit with the capabilities of SketchUp. We've also tried to produce an accurate representation of the plant species for each model.
If you look closely at the Green Ash tree sample you will see we were able to produce a 3D model of a tree that has a fine texture and keep the face count around 1500. This can only be done by using textures for each group of leaves/branches. Almost all the leaf and flower textures of our trees were painstakenly illustrated by hand (painted & photoshop'd) - done this way because it is impossible to find or photograph images exaclty as you need them to build trees like this.
You are correct in saying they aren't completely photoreal. Its very difficult to make 3D vegetation photoreal because of SketchUp's limitation. I beleive the best way to be photoreal still is by using 2D face-me photos of plants. Using our library you can certainly produce some nice looking finished models like the one attached here (rendered using Shaderlight).
Comments and feedback are welcome!
Len Hordyk l.a.t.
DynaSCAPE Software
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I thought I would do one of my bi-annual posts
Attached is a rendering using the DynaSCAPE plant collection - with the exception of 1 tree that is from 3D Warehouse.Peace
Daniel Tal
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Great work both of you!
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$700 a year for a subcription...
I mean it looks good but I can't justify spending that much on a subscription service.
While ~1000 plants sounds like a lot it's really not that much in practice if you are going for botanically accurate models which seems to be what you are marketing to. With CADplants I have 4000+ plant models and I still find myself having to create one out of every three plants we use and I am still faking a lot of plants with similar species from the collection. What is appealing about the dynascape collection is some of the 3D groundcovers and low plants/shrubs that don't work well as 2d images.
Look at CADplants- I paid $400 for 4000 plants and it's not a subcription service and I have them all downloaded as skp models and various high res image formats all saved that anyone can just grab and use. It looks like a good product but the format/price not so much for what it is. Just my opinion.
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How much is it I don't see anywhere to order sketch3d, just their other products?
Do their textures all have bump maps?
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Patrick, I believe the $700 is for the first year and then is $100 a year after that. The cost is for the plugin which helps cleanup the Dynascape (CAD) files for sketchup, all of the textures, prebuilt models and the 2D and 3D plants. I assume they are also adding to the library which is where the subscription comes in. All in all, it's not that outrageous.
Also, as you can tell from this thread (/advertisement), Dynascape hooked up with Daniel Tal and probably Shaderlight to offer a complete solution for landscape designers to break into the world of 3D modeling, training and rendering. For those architects and designer who are trying to get up to speed on 3D and start offering it to their clients, this is great deal and a good strategy by Dynascape.
I haven't truly evaluated it to make a genuinely informed decision, but from the renders posted the collection has a nice overall "illustrative" look. Again, not as photoreal as I like, but for most it's probably just right.
Comparing it to Cadplants it's not apples to apples. Cadplants is great in sheer volume, but also are poorly made and frustrating to work with out of the box. They are simply the collection of plants that are sold with IdeaSpectrum Landscape Architect for $250, but mass converted to .skp. A lot have the wrong scale, they are all facing the reverse direction, they don't face the camera and are not cataloged easily. $400 is a good deal, but you get what you pay for.
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Hmm, it looks like a good solution compared with what's out there. $700 to start is still a big investment up front and hard to justify. If it were around $300 I would definitely get it which is why I may go with formfonts for a 2 year subscription for 300 (1 year for 200) and the selection looks comparable plus a lot more non landscape components. Who knows I will probably end up getting it at some point it's just hard to make the case that I need $700 worth of components. With this pack I'm not really interested in the 2D components since you can find those easily in other collections and I can make just about any 2D face me component in 10 minutes or less. I can't however model a 3D plant in any timely manner so I'm only really looking at the 3D stuff in the value.
It looks like a great product just pricey. I would like to get some feedback as to how a lot of this stuff renders and see more examples.
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so what are the banks for 3D plants ?
- 3Dwarehouse, of course
- Form fonts 3D
- Cadplants
this one is a collection of models to add in the render
- Artlantis 3D plants and trees
isn't that smarter : put the plants in the rendered model better than in SU ?
the EULA are all pretty unclear to me (french speaking native;) so : is it legal to use this model for commercial use ?
can I use these for models I will upload to Google Earth ? - 3Dwarehouse, of course
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Can the models be used for commercial use? Yes.
Essentially what the EULA is saying is that you may not put the models (model = individual component or model containing components) on a public site where anyone can download and extract the components from. 3D Warehouse and Google Earth are both such places. It does not restrict you from posting rendered images as posted here.
Len Hordyk
DynaSCAPE Software
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