Horse head

michaliszissiou · 18 May 2011, 23:28

Feidias sculpting (british museum) as reference.
A sculptris and meshmixer direct export to SU. (do you know meshmixer app?)

Bryan K · 18 May 2011, 23:50

Wow. Very nice.

SketchUpNoobie · 19 May 2011, 01:49

Beautiful.

But, uh, did you do anything in SketchUp?

pilou · 19 May 2011, 07:49

What about render this image? ( a plugin render like Podium...?

Free Meshmixer is here

michaliszissiou · 19 May 2011, 07:53

Thanks, Bryan K, SketchupNoobie.
nothing in SU except the cubes-scene and raw 2d export. What are other options? To download something from 3dwh ? (not made in SU either) To use artisan plugin? SU isn't a sculpting tool, better use it to set up a scene and fill it with sculpts.
But I repeat, SketchupNoobie, have you checked meshmixer app?

michaliszissiou · 19 May 2011, 07:57

@Pilou
why not? Soon, but I'll probably export everything to blender-cycles.

new sculptris, meshmixer, new blender-cycles, all these for free (+SU)... not so bad eh?

pilou · 19 May 2011, 08:57

Yes, kids of today are very lucky!
And in 2D this one is some marvelous MyPaint
Brushes are fantastic!

SketchUpNoobie · 19 May 2011, 12:02

@michaliszissiou said:

SketchupNoobie.
nothing in SU except the cubes-scene and raw 2d export. What are other options? To download something from 3dwh ? (not made in SU either) To use artisan plugin? SU isn't a sculpting tool, better use it to set up a scene and fill it with sculpts.
But I repeat, SketchupNoobie, have you checked meshmixer app?

I have not tried the Meshmixer app. I played with Sculptris a little but my organic modelling talents are nonexistent. That's why stuff like this always amazes me.

That being said however, I don't think this belongs here. If none of the workflow is done in SketchUp, I think you should show your models elsewhere. And no, I don't count importing into SketchUp and exporting as a 2d image, 'part of the workflow.'

This is just my opinion. I hope I have not upset you in the slightest. I just wanted to point out how tired others and I am of 3D Warehouse imports and stuff like that.

I am not trying to take anything away from your beautiful model. It really is spectacular. And the fact that I can do nothing in that field only makes it more incredible.

michaliszissiou · 19 May 2011, 12:20

@unknownuser said:

I just wanted to point out how tired others and I am of 3D Warehouse imports and stuff like that.

I'm also tired from the SU community when leads this fine app to a road of non existence.
Good computing means inputs and outputs, imports and exports. Workflow. Chain. To understand how to produce useful topology.
SU is a simple app after all. A very useful sometimes. It's a shame that you have to pay for a decent obj export though.

Thanks SketchupNoobie, I hope I didn't upset you either.

SketchUpNoobie · 19 May 2011, 12:46

@michaliszissiou said:

Good computing means inputs and outputs, imports and exports. Workflow. Chain. To understand how to produce useful topology.

Absolutely! But it just seems to me that you import into SketchUp just so you can post your works in this forum. You don't seem to do any actual modelling in SketchUp. Please correct me if I am wrong though.

dale · 19 May 2011, 13:34

michalis
meshmixer looks interesting, and it has a mac version.
I know how you love blender. Can the two be compared?

michaliszissiou · 19 May 2011, 15:37

@dale
Not at all. meshmixer as sculptris are helper apps, for sculpting mostly. Blender is a standalone app.
@SketchupNoobie
You may ask mods to delete this thread.
If someone could help and join it with this one
http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=179&t=37367

@unknownuser said:

But it just seems to me that you import into SketchUp just so you can post your works in this forum.

Oh my. I have some friends here so where is the problem? Lets stop this now.
I admit that it was wrong to post here.

Box · 19 May 2011, 16:30

It is far from wrong to post here!!!

It's lovely work and all related to 3D modelling.

SketchUpNoobie · 19 May 2011, 16:47

@michaliszissiou said:

You may ask mods to delete this thread.

I'm not going to do that. Sorry. I guess I took this a little too far.

@box said:

It is far from wrong to post here!!!

It's lovely work and all related to 3D modelling.

It is lovely work and I don't mean to take anything away from Michalis' art. However, this is a SketchUp forum.

Please don't understand me wrong. Of course, I know that SketchUp cannot do everything and that for many projects, other programs are a whole lot more useful. I also realize that using a variety of programs, even on one project, can make everything go a whole lot more smooth and quick. However, this being a SketchUp forum, I believe most things posted in here should have at least part of the workflow done in SketchUp.

What about a subsection of the Gallery dedicated to 'Other Modelling Software'? That would definitely be a cool forum.

Box · 19 May 2011, 18:07

By your definition only sketchup output should be posted in the gallery.

That leaves out an awful lot of Renders.

Yes it's a sketchup forum, but it is a Forum! a place for like minded people to discuss things of similar interest.
And besides that, Michalis does use sketchup, and I for one find it interesting and informative the way he is able to combine various techniques and bring them together in sketchup.

michaliszissiou · 19 May 2011, 18:09

As I remember, we had a discussion about digital sculpting, a dedicated topic, even a classroom , why not? There're excellent and free apps around. Importing to SU isn't so complicated as it looks. Just this limitation of 64k tri meshes.

mitcorb · 19 May 2011, 18:12

My two cents:
I wish for Michalis to continue posting his work and thoughts. Diverse ideas reduce stagnation.
Specifically on the horse head: I like your style and sense of proportion. Again, diversity in perception. A window into your creative mind.

SketchUpNoobie · 19 May 2011, 18:34

@box said:

By your definition only sketchup output should be posted in the gallery.

That leaves out an awful lot of Renders.

Uh, what definition? Don't put words in my mouth.

@sketchupnoobie said:

However, this being a SketchUp forum, I believe most things posted in here should have at least part of the workflow done in SketchUp.

@box said:

Yes it's a sketchup forum, but it is a Forum! a place for like minded people to discuss things of similar interest.
And besides that, Michalis does use sketchup, and I for one find it interesting and informative the way he is able to combine various techniques and bring them together in sketchup.

You have a point. I didn't see much use of SketchUp but if he says he uses it I am not one to judge. I am simply one to stand in awe of such an amazing work.

Again, I think I took this too far and am sorry for any misunderstanding. I apologize to Michalis, Box, and anyone else I may have offended.

david_h · 19 May 2011, 19:09

Nice Horse Head. . .looks all ready to put into some movie producer's bed!

michaliszissiou · 19 May 2011, 19:15

Thanks for these kind compliments. I appreciate this.
SketchupNoobie has a point though. A more dedicated topic could be nice. I like the forum, thats all.
In fact, I started learning (and buying) many sculpting apps, all the 'dirty' tricks as baking hi res to low meshes etc, all this impulse came from modeling and texturing in SU.
Just remind you this, when push pull on a texture, trying to fix mapping face by face, lot of fun...