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    dbwv69
    last edited by 12 May 2011, 18:00

    @solo said:

    If you can upload it, or part of it, I'd like to try something with Terragen.

    I tried uploading it earlier and it was rejected because the file was too large.

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      solo
      last edited by 12 May 2011, 18:02

      Got a dropbox account? they are free, safe and private.

      http://www.solos-art.com

      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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        dbwv69
        last edited by 12 May 2011, 18:06

        @solo said:

        Got a dropbox account? they are free, safe and private.

        No but I can get one. Where do you reccommend?

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          solo
          last edited by 12 May 2011, 18:08

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            dbwv69
            last edited by 12 May 2011, 18:11

            @solo said:

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            I'll go create an account now. What format do you prefer the data to be in? I am currently extracting it to a DXF mesh, is that ok?

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              solo
              last edited by 12 May 2011, 18:16

              Sure, or even DEM.

              http://www.solos-art.com

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                dbwv69
                last edited by 12 May 2011, 18:29

                @solo said:

                Sure, or even DEM.

                The DXF mesh extract was huge and is still uploading to my dropbox but the DEM extract was surprisingly small. See attached:


                Full Area DEM.zip

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                  solo
                  last edited by 12 May 2011, 18:40

                  You may want to check the dem file, it's kinda wierd, hard to explain, lacks all detail.

                  http://www.solos-art.com

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                    dbwv69
                    last edited by 12 May 2011, 18:50

                    @solo said:

                    You may want to check the dem file, it's kinda wierd, hard to explain, lacks all detail.

                    I looked at it and see what you mean. I must have inadvertently selected the wrong scale when I exported it. The DXF file just finished uploading, here is the link:

                    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29024765/Full%20Area.zip

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                      solo
                      last edited by 12 May 2011, 18:59

                      ๐Ÿ˜ฒ ๐Ÿ˜ฎ 750MB file.

                      ๐Ÿ‘ฟ gonna try open in SU first, see if flames spew out from CPU.

                      http://www.solos-art.com

                      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                        dbwv69
                        last edited by 12 May 2011, 19:00

                        @solo said:

                        :shock: ๐Ÿ˜ฎ 750MB file.

                        ๐Ÿ‘ฟ gonna try open in SU first, see if flames spew out from CPU.

                        See why I wanna reduce it? LOL

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                          solo
                          last edited by 12 May 2011, 19:04

                          I doubt very highly that you can reduce that to a point it opens in SU and resembles anything close to what you need, but lets try, I have all sorts of tools to try with.

                          I'm trying Vue-SU first, but that will take a while to import.

                          http://www.solos-art.com

                          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                            dbwv69
                            last edited by 12 May 2011, 19:10

                            @solo said:

                            I doubt very highly that you can reduce that to a point it opens in SU and resembles anything close to what you need, but lets try, I have all sorts of tools to try with.

                            I'm trying Vue-SU first, but that will take a while to import.

                            I do too but was going to divide it into several sections as to lighten the load of each.

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                              dbwv69
                              last edited by 12 May 2011, 19:15

                              @solo said:

                              I doubt very highly that you can reduce that to a point it opens in SU and resembles anything close to what you need, but lets try, I have all sorts of tools to try with.

                              I'm trying Vue-SU first, but that will take a while to import.

                              If I can figure out why my 90% reduction in Deep Explorer isn't coming out like yours, I believe my problem may be solved. I have tried numerous variations of settings but I start to lose detail at around 50% and it gets worse from there. I even managed to make what resembled a spiked cactus once.

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                                bjornkn
                                last edited by 12 May 2011, 20:29

                                @dbwv69 said:

                                What is GP?

                                Guide point.
                                I suppose you not knowing that implies that you never tried the method at all, but just were thinking that it would be way too much work - even just to try it?

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                                  dbwv69
                                  last edited by 12 May 2011, 20:36

                                  @bjornkn said:

                                  @dbwv69 said:

                                  What is GP?

                                  Guide point.
                                  I suppose you not knowing that implies that you never tried the method at all, but just were thinking that it would be way too much work - even just to try it?

                                  I'm willing to try anything that will help me to achieve my goal. Remember, I'm not a Sketchup expert, or an expert with 3D software in general, far from it in fact. By and large, I am learning as I go and will undoubtedly make a lot of mistakes along the way.

                                  Honestly, and I am showing my ignorance here, but I am not completely sure what the guide point method entails. If you would care to enlighten me, I'd be happy to give it a try.

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                                    dbwv69
                                    last edited by 12 May 2011, 20:59

                                    Solo, what settings did you use when you reduced the mesh sample I provided earlier? From what I can tell, the settings are very touchy and believe that's where the problem lies.

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                                      bjornkn
                                      last edited by 12 May 2011, 21:15

                                      Just for fun I ran a quick test with Mootools Polygon Cruncher.
                                      I removed 95%, and was left with 9770 faces from 198000. BTW, that dxf file is full of duplicated vertices.
                                      As you can see on the leftmost version there's a lot of lines at the edges - that's because I told it to not touch the edges. Which means that all the edge vertices are exactly as in the original, and should very easily connect to the next patch as all the vertices should align.
                                      The middle version is smoothed/softened and the right version is just softened with no normal smoothing.
                                      I'm sure it could work fine even at more compression?red95.jpg

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                                        dbwv69
                                        last edited by 12 May 2011, 21:21

                                        @bjornkn said:

                                        Just for fun I ran a quick test with Mootools Polygon Cruncher.
                                        I removed 95%, and was left with 9770 faces from 198000. BTW, that dxf file is full of duplicated vertices.
                                        As you can see on the leftmost version there's a lot of lines at the edges - that's because I told it to not touch the edges. Which means that all the edge vertices are exactly as in the original, and should very easily connect to the next patch as all the vertices should align.
                                        The middle version is smoothed/softened and the right version is just softened with no normal smoothing.
                                        I'm sure it could work fine even at more compression?

                                        I'm impressed. The results you obtained look very much like the example Solo posted earlier. Now if only I could manage to do the same, my headache might go away and I could begin to do some real modeling. Though I must admit that I am not looking forward to the challenge of roadbuilding. LOL

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                                          bjornkn
                                          last edited by 12 May 2011, 21:43

                                          @dbwv69 said:

                                          I'm willing to try anything that will help me to achieve my goal. Remember, I'm not a Sketchup expert, or an expert with 3D software in general, far from it in fact. By and large, I am learning as I go and will undoubtedly make a lot of mistakes along the way.

                                          Honestly, and I am showing my ignorance here, but I am not completely sure what the guide point method entails. If you would care to enlighten me, I'd be happy to give it a try.
                                          Try anything? Except open your wallet ie ๐Ÿ˜‰
                                          It's written on that image with 3 brown meshes posted a while ago.
                                          Here is another "tutorial".GPgrids.jpg

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