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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
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      @marian said:

      I can imagine the nationalistic headlines on both sides... 😒

      Ah, tell me about it...

      BTW my grandfather was born in Transylvania (my other grandfather in nowadays Slovakia) and some of our family is still in Serbia...
      My wife's family is also from Transylvania but her father was already born in Slovakia.

      I doubt however that our government would want to rent any of those castles BTW. Not nowat least.
      😆

      BTW this is the main square of my town - and guess what; with a Turkish mosque (now used as a Catholic church) in the middle.
      😄


      Pecs.kml

      Gai...

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      • MarianM Offline
        Marian
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        I don't know my ancestry very well but most of my ancestors are from Moldova. My grandfather, from my father's side, says that our ancestors originally came from across the mountains in Ardeal/Transylvania maybe 150-200 years ago.
        Our family name, Rodu, is rather unique in general and not very common. Other people around the country with the same name are almost certainly related to me.
        This makes me think that my distant ancestors could be Polish, rodu in Polish means family and knowing the history between Poland and Moldova that seems more plausible, but who knows, it can be a perfectly normal Romanian name that got altered when was first written in official documents.

        The building's architecture looks interestingly well suited to both a mosque and church.
        Also the cross on top of the crescent is very unique, at least I have never seen it represented that way.

        http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/72854/pecs_mosque3.jpg

        http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
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          It was reconstructed around 1940 to this "original looking" state. It used to have some Baroque additions from the 18th century:

          http://www.templom.hu/phpwcms/pecs-belv/kul/belv3.jpg

          So not everything is impossible or hopeless!
          😄

          Gai...

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          • MarianM Offline
            Marian
            last edited by

            Was it damaged in the war? I shudder to think at demolishing anything added to a historical building that is more than 100 years old even if it's not to original spec.

            http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
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              No, we were lucky. There was a panzer SS regiment in town but their heavy weapons and ammunition never arrived and they left without trying to defend the city. The Americans dropped a couple bombs around the railway station (well they destroyed the brothels there at least) and the Russians marched in without a single shot.

              Gai...

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              • MarianM Offline
                Marian
                last edited by

                I'm happy that nothing valuable got ruined during the war.
                What I was trying to ask was, why did they demolish the baroque elements and tower? Those were also of historical value.

                http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
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                  Well, that time was still somewhat influenced by the Historism of the Romanic style/era and they thought everything should be rebuilt in its original form (or at least what they thought original was). Here at least much of the original mosque was intact.

                  In Szigetvár (mentioned above), the main parish church also used to be a mosque but during the renovation, they left it in its mixed style. Here are a couple of good shots of it:
                  http://picasaweb.google.com/karnelian2/SzigetvarAliPasaDzsami1589#

                  Gai...

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                  • MarianM Offline
                    Marian
                    last edited by

                    Now I get it.
                    The other building looks more church than mosque. In any case both are beautiful

                    http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
                      last edited by

                      Now go back to work, I would like to see some more progress on this model!
                      😄

                      Gai...

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                      • MarianM Offline
                        Marian
                        last edited by

                        Ok..I made the front entrance.


                        SimLab_188.jpg


                        SimLab_189.jpg


                        SimLab_190.jpg

                        http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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                        • numbthumbN Offline
                          numbthumb
                          last edited by

                          Aaah...close-ups! Excellent!
                          Except that the arch needs more segments perhaps?

                          Comfortably numb...

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                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
                            last edited by

                            It will turn out when it is high poly enough. Turning an arch into more polys is not that hard.

                            Gai...

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                            • numbthumbN Offline
                              numbthumb
                              last edited by

                              What do you mean "when it is high poly enough?" 😕

                              Comfortably numb...

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                              • MarianM Offline
                                Marian
                                last edited by

                                I'm not sure if I want it to be more high poly. There will be more details and textures.

                                http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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                                • GaieusG Offline
                                  Gaieus
                                  last edited by

                                  @numbthumb said:

                                  What do you mean "when it is high poly enough?" 😕

                                  Well, when every detail Marian intends to put in is already there, he will see if he wishes to (or can) go for higher poly solutions for certain details.

                                  A 12 segmented arc can easily be redrawn with a 24 segmented one (and then just PP the remaining faces away)


                                  arcs.png

                                  Gai...

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                                  • numbthumbN Offline
                                    numbthumb
                                    last edited by

                                    Yes, of course. The model looks fine, and there is no need to go "higher poly" as far as I am concerned - it is just that it doesn´t look right in a close up with the default number of arc segments.

                                    Comfortably numb...

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                                    • MarianM Offline
                                      Marian
                                      last edited by

                                      For the moment I'll leave it the way it is. Later on I'll change it if there is any need like Gaieus said.
                                      Haven't done anymore on it just yet. I've been stressed out by something.

                                      http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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                                      • numbthumbN Offline
                                        numbthumb
                                        last edited by

                                        @marian said:

                                        I've been stressed out by something.

                                        Ah, cr@p, I hope it´s not too bad. Being slightly mobbed at work lately, I feel kinda sympathetic 😄

                                        Comfortably numb...

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                                        • MarianM Offline
                                          Marian
                                          last edited by

                                          @numbthumb said:

                                          Ah, cr@p, I hope it´s not too bad. Being slightly mobbed at work lately, I feel kinda sympathetic

                                          Thanks Numb. It's not that bad, it's just one of those annoying situations...I guess there's no harm in saying what the problem is.

                                          So...my room mate got contacted by somebody to ask him if he wanted to work in some kind of firm related to publicity. Of course he was...he didn't find anything while he searched for a job for months.
                                          Anyway the same person that had contacted him was asked by somebody else who I think was also asked by somebody else,who knows how long the chain is, to look for a 3d artist in Cluj. So she also asked my room mate if he knew somebody. He said yes, me, and asked me to write a cv and let him send it.
                                          Of course at this point any real detail about the job was lost in "translation" and I had no Idea what job and for whom it was. 😕
                                          So I made the CV, and waited..... Next day I get an e-mail from Gameloft Romania saying that they liked what they saw in my portfolio on deviantart and I should do a test model for the job of 3d environment artist...You can imagine my excitement at this point... 😒
                                          Alas...it was not to be. I open the attachment...and I find out that I have two weeks in which to make a scene...in 3ds max no less...but it also has to include lightmaps, UV maps,textures made by me and alpha textures...for effects and stuff, etc the works.

                                          So basically this is what stresses me out...that it was a huge opportunity to have a stable job, probably with a decent pay, working as something I love in my country in the city I like....but there is no way I could do the test now or in two weeks.....maybe in a few months after trying to learn how to make all that..... 😢

                                          The bright side is now I know what it takes to become a game artist...the not so bright side is that I need to learn 3ds max 😞

                                          http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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                                          • numbthumbN Offline
                                            numbthumb
                                            last edited by

                                            I´ve had more than my share of ups and downs trying to get a steady job, that I certainly do know how it feels.
                                            Keep your head up, Marian. BTW I am getting a little impatient to see more of that fortress. 😄

                                            Comfortably numb...

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