Major problems viewing SCF in IE8
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Although I generally use Firefox, I also have IE 8 and often test the site but have not experienced any particular problem (i.e. particular to IE).
The site does hang for me as well once in a while however but that is definitely not browser related (for me at least). The cookie issue was mainly important when we changed the domain from http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf (I think)* to http://forums.sketchucation.com as for many members those cookies did not refresh for some reason. But that was last summer and although I still get some emails once in a while, it is apparently not "the" top problem any more.
- yeah, that must be it as the 301 redirect is still live
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OK, having just experienced problems opening pages even in Firefox I thought I'd open HttpFox and take a look at what it is exactly it is that isn't loading and causing these terrible hangs.
As you can see from this HttpFox screenshot it's the "snowflks.gif" background which isn't downloading properly (as I scrolled back through the HttpFox history is shows up red every time). It would certainly explain why this has only started happening in the last couple of months.
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Hm. Do we still have the snowflakes? I blocked them at once when they appeared. Coen puts them up at around Christmas time generally but not for long. I have now unblocked them, cleared my cache but cannot see them. Can anyone see them?
(Maybe they are still in the css file - I1ll need to talk Coen)
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Jackson, press F5 while viewing the SCF and it will update to the latest settings. That should remove the snowflakes trying to load.
My $.02
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@gaieus said:
Hm. Do we still have the snowflakes? I blocked them at once when they appeared. Coen puts them up at around Christmas time generally but not for long. I have now unblocked them, cleared my cache but cannot see them. Can anyone see them?
(Maybe they are still in the css file - I1ll need to talk Coen)
can't see them on the page but Adblock says they're there...
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@jessejames said:
...Then why in the world would you continue to use Internet Exploder? ...
I would never tell anyone to use or not to use a certain browser just because of SCF (and I would be the happiest man if there weren't problems) but you exactly know, Jackson, if not from elsewhere but from the time you were also a mod that from time to time there are some issues with the forum and for the life we cannot track them down sometimes. Why do you think we still have that global announcement about browser cookies?
So yes, if IE doesn't work (especially after a clean install), it should not be the cookies or any old crap stuck from before. BTW did you try to manuallydelete your IE cookies from its cookie folder? By experience, if you just go to your internet settings in IE and tell it to delete cookies, it will simply not do it (probably thinking it is smarter than you and knows what is best for you much better than yourself).
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Regarding deletion of IE Cookies.
If you do it with your IE Browser open, that is, in the drop down, Internet Options, or whatever it is called, you may not necessarily completely remove all of the cookies and add-on data. If you get out of the browser, right click on the IE desktop icon, select properties and then go through the deletion process, would this not also clear current session items?
I am definitely no expert in this area, just a thought.
Also, it seems I read somewhere that Firefox, for one, uses the same cache files as IE to store cookies, and in my experience, the desktop deletion procedure mentioned above has caused me no problems. As always, take this info with caution.
I have not worked with Google Chrome yet and I do not know how it dispatches cookies.
Again, I repeat, I am no expert, and use caution. -
Well, I regularly clean both my cache and my cookies. I use CCleaner where you can set which cookies NOT to delete and when running it, it neatly cleans everything.
Also, I have set Firefox not to store any cached items (i.e. delete everything after a session) so I have never had these problems (with either browsers - or in fact with a whole bunch of others either as I have like 4 or 5 installed because I regularly check my websites' behaviour when building them).
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@jackson said:
In short SCF has become almost impossible for me to view in IE8
Then why in the world would you continue to use Internet Exploder? I have dropped IE ever since Google Chrome was released and i haven't look back since. Mys browsing is faster, safer (at least for the time being??) and i also get that cool feeling in my tummy knowing that i am "sticking it" to Microsoft!
Not only that i save megabytes of monthly updates/patches/hot-fixes that i would need with the horrible IE! No thanks M$!
I have tried to use Firefox in the past but am turned off by it's failure to trim unnecessary bloat! So in my world Chrome is numero uno!
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I'm actually amazed it took so long before someone posted the inevitable "Then why are you using IE?" reply. I know IE is crap, but frankly I've had more problems in general with Firefox (add-ons often being incompatible with current Firefox versions, probelms loading certain websites, etc).
That said, I guess I should give Chrome a try.
Re: deleting cookies, I also use CCleaner, always when IE and Firefox are closed and I delete everything.
BTW, even in Firefox I'm still getting this problem with loading the "snowflks.gif" file, even if a) the snow flakes background is no longer on SCF and b ) all temp internet files on my PC have been deleted several times since the snow flakes background was removed. It's weird to say the least.
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I think that the background call for it is still in the stylesheet file. That's why the browser is trying to load it - although it cannot find it. That may be the problem. I cannot edit the stylesheet (and would not really like to play with it I have to say) but will contact Coen if that is still the case and if he could do something.
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@jackson said:
That said, I guess I should give Chrome a try.
If you like a minimalist approach you'll love chrome!
@unknownuser said:
It just a browser and a browser it's just.
Although they released chrome b2 with extension capabilities just like FF (of which a nice repository is building!) So i think chrome my be eventually the next replacement for FF. (and of course IE but thats a no brainer
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This issue has become so bad that I'm almost unable to view SCF, even on Firefox. Any attempt to view an SCF page on IE results in a hang 99.9% of the time and in Firefox I'm getting about a 25% success rate, having to refresh 3 times out of 4 to get a page to display properly.
As before, HttpFox is flagging up "snowflks.gif" as a culprit, but there's plenty others too (see report below). Can I really be the only person having this problem?
I miss SCF!
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Jackson
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