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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
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      OK, Pilou, here you go now:
      http://news.sketchucation.com/bonzai-10-released/
      😄

      Gai...

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      • pilouP Offline
        pilou
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        This daily news seems very friendly with the other competition progs 😄
        Does Bonzaï became a mega Plugin of SU? 😉

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
          last edited by

          It's not in the plugins category but the applications > modelling category. 😉

          Gai...

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            So may the best win ☀

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • F Offline
              fossa
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              @unknownuser said:

              This daily news seems very friendly with the other competition progs 😄
              Does Bonzaï became a mega Plugin of SU? 😉

              Well at this point I think we all know Bonzai isn't much of a threat. It's a shame I was really wanting to see someone give SU a run for the money, but it's only V1.0. Who knows what could happen in the furture.

              I do think that for it to become a viable competitor they need to do one simple thing that will never happen. They need to release a free version with no exporters licensed for commercial use. That is the only thing that will ever get them the exposure they need.

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
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                Indeed. I'd actually wonder how better SU is doing now as there is a free version. I could imagine that the pro sales are higher than when it was a small company and a barely known product.
                Now skp is almost becoming a standard 3d file format.

                Gai...

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                • Chris FullmerC Offline
                  Chris Fullmer
                  last edited by

                  Isn't bonzai a solid modeler?

                  And the people who demo and develop bonzai always look like they hate their lives. Every expo I've ever been to (AIA and ASLA), they glare at me and talk down to me and they glare at eachother, and they glare at people who don't stop and talk to them. They have no excitement in their voice when they talk about their product. Seems like the whole thing is run by zombies. And thats a true story!

                  Whereas I've never met an unhappy Googler (except the on SU guy who quit/fired? and was pretty bitter and used to post SU hate posts on the forums, forgot his name though).

                  Chris

                  Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                  All my Plugins I've written

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                  • EscapeArtistE Offline
                    EscapeArtist
                    last edited by

                    It sure looks similar to SU, and it has one feature that I wish SU supported: NURBS

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                    • F Offline
                      fossa
                      last edited by

                      @chris fullmer said:

                      Isn't bonzai a solid modeler?

                      And the people who demo and develop bonzai always look like they hate their lives. Every expo I've ever been to (AIA and ASLA), they glare at me and talk down to me and they glare at eachother, and they glare at people who don't stop and talk to them. They have no excitement in their voice when they talk about their product. Seems like the whole thing is run by zombies. And thats a true story!

                      Whereas I've never met an unhappy Googler (except the on SU guy who quit/fired? and was pretty bitter and used to post SU hate posts on the forums, forgot his name though).

                      Chris

                      Thats not the impression I got. I've been watching their forums for sometime now and they always were very quick to respond to issues or answer questions about their product. (granted it was the beta period, we'll see what happens next). The lack of fanfare for the release of their product has left me scratching my head wondering what's going on....

                      As far as who's developing it I don't care, zombies, vampires, wolfmen/wolfwomen, at least they are willing to talk to their customers. They show a lot more enthusiasm for their product than Google now does for SU.

                      Not trying to turn this into a rant. That silence doctrine of Google hits a nerve with me. Not nice Google.

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                      • EdsonE Offline
                        Edson
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                        i have not tried bonzai 3D yet but i have watched some of their video tutorials: it is amazing how similar to SUp it is! of course, there are differences in the way it does things but it seems that all the main elements are there. sections look the same, with the difference that they are real sections (boolean) which i am not sure is better that what SUp has. there is even a palette called objects that does the same as SUp's outliner.

                        it would be great if someone from SCF who has already tested it could compare the two apps.

                        edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                        http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                        • pilouP Offline
                          pilou
                          last edited by

                          @unknownuser said:

                          Isn't bonzai a solid modeler?

                          Not sure, a surfacic yes, maybe more between that 😄

                          Frenchy Pilou
                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                          My Little site :)

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                          • F Offline
                            fossa
                            last edited by

                            My experience with it is limited but I was under the impression it was a solid modeler.

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                            • Chris FullmerC Offline
                              Chris Fullmer
                              last edited by

                              The "funny" thing about Google's silence mandate is that they seem to break it all the time with other projects.... But they don't like the SU team to do it. Which is not nice. 😢

                              Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                              All my Plugins I've written

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                              • StinkieS Offline
                                Stinkie
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                                I've been wondering about the silence regarding SU's development myself. Apart from the fact that I dislike this approach, it really eats me that I just cannot work out why they've chosen to go about things this way. What's in it for Google? Not a rhetorical question: I am genuinely curious.

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                                • R Offline
                                  remus
                                  last edited by

                                  The only benefit i can see in the silent approach is that it keeps your competitors in the dark as to your direction.

                                  Other than that it just serves to piss off users, as far as i can tell.

                                  http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                                  • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                    Chris Fullmer
                                    last edited by

                                    It eliminates the possibility of vaporware - if you never promise anything, than no one can be mad when you don't release something. Except that people do get mad because they might create unwarranted high expectations. Which I think is the case here.

                                    But I would totally prefer to have leaks about possible new features, than to sit in the dark. Perhaps if they released more info, they could get feedback on whether people like the idea, before they put all the resources into something that people are not interested it?

                                    Chris

                                    Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                    All my Plugins I've written

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                                    • BurkhardB Offline
                                      Burkhard
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                                      Must say I'm very impressed by some of the functions I've seen there, like thickness tool, boundery curves...
                                      Makes tears in my eyes that my beloved Sketchup is way behind in developement.

                                      [http://www.ia-plus.de(http://www.ia-plus.de)]

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                                      • EdsonE Offline
                                        Edson
                                        last edited by

                                        yes, some of the features are really interesting.

                                        however, bonzai seems to be another one of those closed apps that do not allow for any user input: the app is like it is and you take it or leave it. SUp, on the other hand, by virtue of the programming language it uses, allows the user to increase its capabilities enormously, even beyond what has been imagined by its creators.

                                        and who knows the kind of support bonzai users will get in the future? with SUp there is a huge support base which is independent from google.

                                        edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                                        http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                        • K Offline
                                          kwistenbiebel
                                          last edited by

                                          I hope Bonzai3D's development will be lightning fast....preferably as a carbon copy of Sketchup but with all the things we need added.
                                          Let's hope the major render engines jump on the Bonzai train and start producing render plugins for it.

                                          As Google is mute and deaf on development, I applaud all other SU-like development to become better as its example.
                                          Moving forward!

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                                          • S Offline
                                            sepo
                                            last edited by

                                            How good is Bonsai on highpoly?

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