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    thomthom
    last edited by 16 Apr 2009, 20:37

    Ah, the balcony sticks further out. That would explains why the left side doesn't look deeper than the right.
    Thanks Sepo.

    Can I assume you're an architect? (They are usually good at spotting these things.)

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      thomthom
      last edited by 16 Apr 2009, 20:38

      @sepo said:

      Now that looks much better. It is difficult one to pin on any city. I would think if the sketches are done by Terry or his mate they would probably reference what they know. A lot of town halls are doen in Gothic revival in England.

      I think Ankh is based quite a bit on old London.

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        sepo
        last edited by 16 Apr 2009, 20:39

        Yes , I am Chartered Architrect, practising one but also lecturer at University of Northampton.

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          sepo
          last edited by 16 Apr 2009, 20:44

          here is my local Guildhall... try to find more work by this guy...He was quite good.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northampton_Guildhall

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            thomthom
            last edited by 16 Apr 2009, 20:45

            The sketch is from Stephen Briggs map.

            @unknownuser said:

            ..., so I began browsing through books of all the UK's main walled cities. I found one which fitted my requirements (Its name being withheld to prevent civil lawsuit)

            This is talking mainly about the street map structure though. But I'd think the illustration, which also came from the book, might be inspired from the same books.

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              sepo
              last edited by 16 Apr 2009, 20:46

              Gothic revival is more likely as that size of houses were not known in London in middleages AFAIK

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                thomthom
                last edited by 16 Apr 2009, 20:47

                @sepo said:

                here is my local Guildhall... try to find more work by this guy...He was quite good.
                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northampton_Guildhall

                Thanks. Unfortunately I haven't got much references to similar architecture in Norway. So I can't just take a walk around sampling inspiration. But I can use the internet of course if I only know what I'm looking for.

                Going to London next week. I'll bring my camera and drop by the old town. Should be some there I expect.

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                  thomthom
                  last edited by 16 Apr 2009, 20:48

                  @sepo said:

                  Gothic revival is more likely as that size of houses were not known in London in middleages AFAIK

                  Good point. This would be a skyskraper I suppose.

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                    thomthom
                    last edited by 16 Apr 2009, 20:50

                    Did the feature above the windows have a specific name?

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                      sepo
                      last edited by 16 Apr 2009, 20:50

                      There is very little of what you presumme is old London. A lot of went in big fire and lot was replaced in 1r8 th and 19th century building booms. But yes internet could be a good source.
                      Aha so you coming to London...for how long ?

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                        Khai
                        last edited by 16 Apr 2009, 21:02

                        @thomthom said:

                        @sepo said:

                        Gothic revival is more likely as that size of houses were not known in London in middleages AFAIK

                        Good point. This would be a skyskraper I suppose.

                        remember Ankh Morpork is also a mashup in time - In Thief of Time it's pointed out that when the first Glass Clock shattered time, AM was not put back together properly... hence the Dysk (Shakespearean styled) being across the road from the Opera House (Phantom of the Opera styled)..when the Opera House is older than the Dysk...

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                          sepo
                          last edited by 16 Apr 2009, 21:03

                          Not that I am aware of but than again I am not a specialist in Gothic architecture. It is some sort of apron. Some people say the purpose of it is to throw water away from windows under. Let me quickly sketch it.

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                            thomthom
                            last edited by 16 Apr 2009, 21:05

                            @sepo said:

                            There is very little of what you presumme is old London. A lot of went in big fire and lot was replaced in 1r8 th and 19th century building booms. But yes internet could be a good source.
                            Aha so you coming to London...for how long ?

                            Well, should be some gothic revival styles. And in any case, I'm planning on modelling more Ankh buildings, which will be in different styles. So I'll just sample as broad as I can.

                            I'll be around from 21-28th April.

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                              thomthom
                              last edited by 16 Apr 2009, 21:07

                              @khai said:

                              remember Ankh Morpork is also a mashup in time - In Thief of Time it's pointed out that when the first Glass Clock shattered time, AM was not put back together properly... hence the Dysk (Shakespearean styled) being across the road from the Opera House (Phantom of the Opera styled)..when the Opera House is older than the Dysk...

                              Yes, the styles in the city would be different. But you'd expect the each building to have each their style, not a mix of many. (unless it's a large building which has been rebuilt.)

                              You could also argue that Discworld styles have evolved differently. But it's easier to base it on the real world.

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                                thomthom
                                last edited by 16 Apr 2009, 21:10

                                @sepo said:

                                Not that I am aware of but than again I am not a specialist in Gothic architecture. It is some sort of apron. Some people say the purpose of it is to throw water away from windows under. Let me quickly sketch it.

                                Like the things above the windows in this photo? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/McGill_University_Building4.jpg

                                I find it a bit odd to see these things over gothic windows. Can't remember noticing things like that. I think I might ignore them.

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                                  sepo
                                  last edited by 16 Apr 2009, 21:13

                                  Here is quick sketch...not necessery same profile but as there is no reference as good as any.


                                  Untitled.jpg

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                                    Khai
                                    last edited by 16 Apr 2009, 21:16

                                    no, I mean there are buildings from different timezones, not just built in different times.. it gets a little confusing to explain lol

                                    take my example. the Dysk when it was built (Wyrd Sisters) was the most advanced theater in AM. but, the Opera House (Masquerade) across the road is older and more advanced... since there's 2 timezones there thanks to the History Monk's repairs... the Dysk is actually from before the Opera House was built....

                                    and thats just that one street in AM.

                                    can't wait till you try modeling Empirical Crescent.....

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                                      sepo
                                      last edited by 16 Apr 2009, 21:21

                                      Usually aprons like on my sketch have returns , but on the first sketch there aren't any.

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                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by 16 Apr 2009, 21:21

                                        Good Lord! Time Monks and Bloody Stupid Johnson... ...trying not to think about them.
                                        Yea, there's a reason why I started with something more sane. I figured it'd be better to get into the feel of the city of something more predictable. Bloody Stupid Johnson's creations and the Tower of Magic are things that have to linger in my head before I begin to tackle them.

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                                          Crazy Eyes
                                          last edited by 16 Apr 2009, 22:29

                                          @thomthom said:

                                          predictable. Bloody Stupid Johnson's creations and the Tower of Magic are things that have to linger in my head before I begin to tackle them.

                                          I think that AK might be wishing that Blood Stupid Johnson didn't have your way of thinking.

                                          Awesome modelling BTW. You've inspired me to have an attempt at a different building after I've finished my current work.

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