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    [Plugin] Random Painter (Updated March 9th, 09)

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    • Chris FullmerC Offline
      Chris Fullmer
      last edited by

      Hey, thats a great tool. I'll have to d/l it and play with it when I get home,

      Chris

      Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
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      • EdsonE Offline
        Edson
        last edited by

        chris,

        just for your information (i am not sure there is something you can do): having wxSU installed causes conflicts with windowizer4 (the dialogue appears blank) and immediate crashes after invoking it.

        regards.

        edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre β€’ brasil
        http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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        • Chris FullmerC Offline
          Chris Fullmer
          last edited by

          Hi Edson, thanks for the note. I saw the post in Rick's windowizer script. Hopefully it gets worked out. I suppose I could also provide a version of random painter that does not require wxsu again.

          Chris

          Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
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          • EdsonE Offline
            Edson
            last edited by

            @chris fullmer said:

            Hi Edson, thanks for the note. I saw the post in Rick's windowizer script. Hopefully it gets worked out. I suppose I could also provide a version of random painter that does not require wxsu again.

            Chris

            i thought it would not work without it. πŸ˜•

            edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre β€’ brasil
            http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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            • Chris FullmerC Offline
              Chris Fullmer
              last edited by

              Well, it is the nice User Interface that comes from wxsu. So I can remove wxSU and make pop up dialog boxes that require you to type in RGB values. Its more tedious than just clicking on the color you want. But it works fine. It is how the script worked at first. So if you'd like, I could re-write it and put the old inputbox version back. I'll just have 2 versions available for download. One with a nice GUI and one without.

              Chris

              Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
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              • EdsonE Offline
                Edson
                last edited by

                i think it is a good idea and i would thank you for that. but i suggest you wait a few days to see if rick comes up with a solution to this problem.

                edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre β€’ brasil
                http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                • A Offline
                  Alex Jenyon
                  last edited by

                  Great idea for a script - thank you! Should come in very useful for a bit of mattepainting.

                  I'm getting all kinds of errors with wxSU when sketchUP loads, which means that I haven't got 'randompainter' to run at all yet (though it's in the menu bar).

                  Obviously me having problems with wxsu is nothing to do with you at all 😳 , but until I can work out what's happening a version that doesn't require wxSU to run would be brilliant.

                  Thanks for all your work.

                  AJ

                  Concept artist / Matte painter
                  www.aj-concepts.net

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                  • Chris FullmerC Offline
                    Chris Fullmer
                    last edited by

                    Oh bummer, sorry to hear it. I think I'll post a version that is independent of wxsu. Hopefully I can get it done today.

                    Chris

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                    • Chris FullmerC Offline
                      Chris Fullmer
                      last edited by

                      OK Edson, I put another version of random painter up. It is non-reliant on wxsu. Its a bit slower to use, but I suppose if the other didn't work at all, then this is quite an upgrade πŸ˜„

                      Chris

                      Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
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                      • EdsonE Offline
                        Edson
                        last edited by

                        surely. thanks a lot. you have become quite an asset to this forum.

                        is this "new" version up on the first post? why do you not keep both versions up? not all people use windowizer4; perhaps some would prefer the version that relies on wxSU.

                        edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre β€’ brasil
                        http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                        • Chris FullmerC Offline
                          Chris Fullmer
                          last edited by

                          They are both up there - the latest version that supports wxsu and the stripped down version that does not. I think at some point I had added some features to pre-wxsu version that have been lost. So if there is something you remember it doing that it no longer does, let me know. All in all though, its still very functional. Thanks for the complements Edson, I'll let you take me out to a churrascaria if I ever make it down to Porto Alegre πŸ˜›

                          Chris

                          Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
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                          • AdamBA Offline
                            AdamB
                            last edited by

                            Cool plugin.

                            However, I think wxSU isn't really ready for primetime. Specifically, it doesn't manage Ruby threads correctly wrt SketchUp.

                            If you have a look at lib/App.rb there are some moderately scary comments. It seems to assume its the only plugin running - I think this is why it causes so many problems.

                            Adam

                            Developer of LightUp Click for website

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                            • Chris FullmerC Offline
                              Chris Fullmer
                              last edited by

                              Adam, does having it installed for my plugin mean that it is possibly going to mess up other plugins?

                              Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
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                              • AdamBA Offline
                                AdamB
                                last edited by

                                Yes, I believe it does. I've spent weeks trying to track some crash bugs for LightUp users that appear to be directly related to having wxSU loaded.

                                The most simple case I found was having wxSU installed and typing "sleep 10" at the console for a crash with some plugins that use it.

                                Today I've been talking on email with Peter (author of wxSU) and he's on the case - so lets hope it can be fixed asap.

                                Adam

                                Developer of LightUp Click for website

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                                • P Offline
                                  peter3443
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi everyone,

                                  First of all, thanks to Adam for bringing me into the discussion. I had no idea anyone was using wxSU with their plugins yet! I'm sorry it's been the source of some nasty crashes. 😞

                                  I've been studying the wxSU conflicts with other plugins and have come to some conclusions:

                                  1. At least one configuration with guaranteed crashing is: Random Painter + PlayUp + Windowizer 4 ...with the final trigger being the menu command Plugins/Windowizer4

                                  2. Part of the problem appears to be that Random Painter and PlayUp are both running their own separate sessions of wxSU, which is dangerous.

                                  3. The other part of the problem is that wxSU's threading scheme has instabilities on its own.

                                  I'm pretty sure I can fix #1 and #2 by adding some code to ensure that only one session of wxSU is running at a time. That should solve most of the crashes described in this topic.

                                  I'm not sure I can fix #3 without help. With only one session of wxSU running, you can type "sleep 10" at the console without any crash. BUT, the unique threading scheme actually gives you back control before the sleep is done. If you now type "sleep 10" again, you get a crash. In reality, will two plugins be asking to sleep at the exact same time? Probably not. It would be nice to figure out but I don't think it's necessarily a showstopper for wxSU in the meantime.

                                  A couple questions for the forum:

                                  Are there other configurations (besides #1) that will cause a crash with wxSU?

                                  Is anyone aware of any other plugins that are using wxSU?

                                  Thanks,
                                  P

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                                  • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                    Chris Fullmer
                                    last edited by

                                    HI Peter, great work on WxSU. I'm afraid most of this discussion might be over my head. I only barely was able to implement WxSU, and I'm not sure that I did it correctly.

                                    Is there a better way to implement so that it won't cause a crash? or is that something you need to do on the development end? I can post my code in this thread if that will help.

                                    Chris

                                    EDIT: I am unaware of other plugins that use WxSU at this point.

                                    Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
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                                    • P Offline
                                      peter3443
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi Chris,

                                      There's nothing you can do in your code to prevent the crash. It's really my fault for not blocking multiple sessions of wxSU. I'll make the change and try to put out a new release of wxSU over the weekend.

                                      The only change I would make to your code is to replace:

                                      require "wxSU.rb"
                                      

                                      with

                                      require "wxSU/lib/Startup"
                                      

                                      Hey, thanks for being an early adopter!

                                      P

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                                      • P Offline
                                        peter3443
                                        last edited by

                                        A new version (v0.3.0) of wxSU is now posted on the project website.
                                        http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=240585&package_id=292646

                                        Multiple instances of wxSU are now blocked which should eliminate the conflict that I've seen between Random Painter, wxSU, Windowizer 4, and other plugins. However, the conflicts won't go away until each plugin that uses wxSU upgrades to 0.3.0. In particular, the PlayUp plugin needs to be upgraded.

                                        The new version also updates to wxRuby 2.0 which is more stable and has some new features.

                                        If anyone finds problems or conflicts that I haven't mentioned, please email me.

                                        Thanks,
                                        P

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                                        • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                          Chris Fullmer
                                          last edited by

                                          Thanks for the update Peter! I don't have time to update this right now, but perhaps in a week or two I'll get it all updated and working with the new version (though I'm not sure I really need to change very much, it should just be a matter of the users upgrading their version of WxSU they have installed).

                                          Chris

                                          Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                          All my Plugins I've written

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                                          • romboutR Offline
                                            rombout
                                            last edited by

                                            mmmm cant get it to work on my mac os x 10.5.6.
                                            first installed the wxSU ppc (that didnt work ofcourse) than tried the platform independent. but got this error see attachment... pretty weird for a mac

                                            the next image was the error i got from the mac ppc version


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                                            Afbeelding 7.png

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