Organic Chair Model Question....I need help?

steelers05

Solo, how did I know you would give this challenge a try. Great looking work, you never fail to amaze.

Teezer, thank you for the explanation and su6 file. Much appreciation.

Im gonna give this one a try as soon as a get a moment away from school. For now, I think we are stuck using an imported model for this project due to time constraints. But I am definatelly going to try and give this a go and Ill post results if I have any success. Thanks again guys.

Ecuadorian

@solo said:

If I decide to make another model pack I may include a few of these and some beds that I've already done.

Looking forward to it Blocky furniture will no longer plague our renders!

steelers05

OK here was my go at it with some organic modeling and I thought I was getting somewhere until I hit the sub+smooth button. The first image shows you how I subdivided and manipulated the geometry and the tufting itself actually worked out but it is the rest that was the reall problem. I tried creasing edges as well and still had poor results like you see in the second image. It just seems like sub+smooth never seems to respond how you would expect. Any of you pros and organics have any suggestions? Any help is greatly appreciated. But I am encouraged with the tufting so far, hopefully I can the rest to work out.

david_h

so how does one go from step one to step 2? how was the mesh created? Sandbox?

( i probably know the answer already . .but I am still having "DUH" moments" )

And then I noticed that in the last 2 steps the back was gone? Goof? on purpose.

tell me. . ..I want to know. . . .

Teezer

@unknownuser said:

so how does one go from step one to step 2? how was the mesh created? Sandbox?

( i probably know the answer already . .but I am still having "DUH" moments" )

And then I noticed that in the last 2 steps the back was gone? Goof? on purpose.

tell me. . ..I want to know. . . .

David,

From step 1, I removed the horizontal faces, selected the whole cylinder, meshed it with SubSmooth's "Subdivide Selection" option, saved a copy to the clipboard, resized the cylinder with the scale tool, then did a "paste in place" from the clipboard.

I removed the back from the last two steps to keep SubSmooth from wrapping the edges around. I wanted the cutoff edges to remain in place, because the cushion image was to be placed in the frame of the chair in that form.

Steelers05,

You've got too much geometry in there before you do the SS. Less is more...

david_h

oh yes. . .the subdivide section option. that is one I rarely use. thanks!

Teezer

Steelers05,

It appeared that you were trying to make a stuffed cushion or a mattress. When I said that you had "too much geometry" in the earlier post, I meant around the edges where the SS process was visibly corrupted. Around the indentations that produce the plush surface, you actually have too little.

You can get predictable results from SubSmooth if you follow a couple of simple rules when you prepare the proxy:

Don't leave any irregular polygons. Manually subdivide everything down to triangles. No rectangles, no odd shapes, only triangles.
If you have a triangle that is extremely skewed (two very long sides and one very short side, for example), subdivide it along the longest sides to make it into a more regular shape.
When you enclose a shape, make sure that there are no unexpected faces inside the shape (they will distort the outside surface). When you have a bit of experience with this, you can do it on purpose for specific effect, however.

Here's what I think you were trying to do: