Ray Ochoa- My Car WIPs and final renders

Roguer1

@rayochoa said:

That would be nice maybe GMC since its going out of business lol

well noone is sure of that yet

If I were you Ray I would even think of giving GM any help. If you did you’d probably see your design under about 6 different badges. I hate GM and do hope it collapses; it sure looks like it will. I only hope that the better car brands survive to be picked up by some wealthy fan (such as Chevy, only because of the Corvette and Camaro)
If GM only had 2 or 3 different brands making different cars (and on platforms that aren’t 15 years old) instead of the 20+ it has its hands into then the modern vehicle market would be doing much better. I think the world would be better off if it died. It’s been flooding the market place with cheap re-badges for years and its getting worse. They own at least 15 brands, that I can name off the top of my head, which make the same cars...WTF GM!

Anyway, good design Ray. It reminds me of the Ford Splash.

RayOchoa

@unknownuser said:

@kdsdesign said:

@rayochoa said:

That would be nice maybe GMC since its going out of business lol

well noone is sure of that yet

If I were you Ray I would even think of giving GM any help. If you did you’d probably see your design under about 6 different badges. I hate GM and do hope it collapses; it sure looks like it will. I only hope that the better car brands survive to be picked up by some wealthy fan (such as Chevy, only because of the Corvette and Camaro)
If GM only had 2 or 3 different brands making different cars (and on platforms that aren’t 15 years old) instead of the 20+ it has its hands into then the modern vehicle market would be doing much better. I think the world would be better off if it died. It’s been flooding the market place with cheap re-badges for years and its getting worse. They own at least 15 brands, that I can name off the top of my head, which make the same cars...WTF GM!

Anyway, good design Ray. It reminds me of the Ford Splash.

Thx rouge. You and your Fords dude. No but seriously i saw that the next el camino will be a pontiac is pontiac under GM too?

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The "El Camino" AKA Pontiac G8 ST is officially dead. Maybe the word cancelled would suit it better since it wasn't even made to be killed in the fir... aaaanyway, it got cancelled.

Roguer1

I think, if the American auto market recovers (GM crashes), Ford should think of replacing some of its s__t models with the European and Australian Fords.

The Falcon would be a great car for the yanks to replace their big, pointless pick-ups and sedans and would move the Holden-Ford war to the US to kick what’s left of GMs (Pontiac G8) arse in the sports sedan and Ute market.

The Focus would replace the, honestly s__t, American Focus and the Mondeo, the Fusion.

If only I had some real say in these things the auto market would be better off... Hmm'

Oh, BTW. Here is the “short list” of what "pies" GM has its hands in

-GMC
-Chevrolet
-Pontiac
-Holden
-Daewoo
-Saturn
-Honda
-"Great Wall" of China Motor Company (has about 10 subsidy’s that produce the same GM cars. I cant find all their names as most are all Chinese)
-Vauxhall
-Opel
-Buick
-Cadillac
-Breckland
-SAAB
-Hummer
-Wuling
-Isuzu
-Suzuki
-SsangYong
-Fiat
Counting those other 10ish there is at least 5 others (such as Wuling) I know they make and own that are sold in Asia.

If anyone can add to my quick list, as I can’t be bothered, please feel free.

KDSDESIGN

i acctually like the fusion over the mondeo. Yes the american focus is (one of the) ugliest cars ever. i heard somewhere they're discontinueing it and replacing it with the euro one.

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@unknownuser said:

"Great Wall" of China Motor Company (has about 10 subsidy’s that produce the same GM cars. I cant find all their names as most are all Chinese)

I've seen some Great Wall products. I thought they were Toyota and Nissan-based. For example the old Great-Wall pickup, which is basically a prev-gen. Hilux and the Sailor (truly WTF), which is a Nissan "Pickup".

Roguer1

Sorry Ray for sort-of hijacking this part of the topic but ...

The Great Wall car manufacturer in China is like the GM of China. It produces all sorts of look-alikes and old cars with new faces and gives them all sorts of badges.

Like what GM is doing with the Volt concept. Yes, they are even re-badging their concepts now and we can tell where that’s heading. The Volt is just a Honda Accord design with some fancy grilles; they built the concept under Chevrolet, Holden and Opel. Hey...One for each region. So I guess they will have, yet another, midsized sedan to re-badge under the 3 or more and it will continue to not make them any money.

Gm is trying to make itself look big by doing this and all its doing is making it look stupid and loosing it lots of money.

That’s my rant finished for now...

GreenToaster

Ray & others,

I hope this isn't thread jack and I know there are a zillion great links out there but this one caught my eye - dig down on this link and you can find some really cool cars - one of them really reminded me of one of Ray's recent cars - very cool stuff.

301 Moved Permanently

(www.conceptcar.co.uk)

RayOchoa

@Green what car reminded you of my designs?

GreenToaster

This one - a slight resemblance to two of your later models - got me thinking:

http://features.conceptcaronline.com/coventry-transport-design-2007/pages/coventry-07-029.php

RayOchoa

juST A quicky ill post more renders of this car later

RayOchoa

The "other" renders i made what do you think?
All critics welcome

Roguer1

Wow Ray, that’s an amazing design. The front reminds me of an Ascari KZ1. The motion blur render looks really good but I am not sure those wheels are right for such a modern design. They look as if they belong on an old Coupe or Roadster.

BTW, my Trojan Cobra is done: http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=12931&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=240