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    How do you make an grey object with a black outline???

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    • J Offline
      JOEJOEJOE
      last edited by

      @gaieus said:

      What I am saying is that the edges SHOULD be there. So what did you do that they don't display?

      Just a guess:
      Go to your styles dialog (Window menu) > In model (little house icon) > Edit tab and under the leftmost icon, make sure that edges are set to display "all the same" (and not coloured by material for instance) and the colour is black.

      This setting is the bottom most and you may need to resize your dialog if it is covered by its edge.

      THANKS MATE THAT HELPED! i dont know how i got rid of the lines i just realised that they had gone and had to amend them. Thanks again!

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      • J Offline
        JOEJOEJOE
        last edited by

        Hi ive just notice that every single line has turned black.

        How do i keep some lines black and others another colour?

        Attached is an image of the roof. I wanted the roof lines to be light grey but keep the rest of the model outlined in black.

        SKETCHUP OUTINE HELP.jpg

        Regards.

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
          last edited by

          Then go back to coloured by material mode, then your grey parts which you want to have the edge black, go to wireframe mode (faces not displayed), selet all edges and paint them black. Now go back to shaded moe.

          Gai...

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          • J Offline
            JOEJOEJOE
            last edited by

            @gaieus said:

            Then go back to coloured by material mode, then your grey parts which you want to have the edge black, go to wireframe mode (faces not displayed), selet all edges and paint them black. Now go back to shaded moe.

            Im confused by this....by "coloured by material mode" do you mean use the "Entity Info" to change the colour or change the colour by using the "Paint Bucket" tool????

            These are the ways i have been trying to change the colour but the roof seams will not change coloyr they just stay black unless i change it through the styles box as youve said before but that changes every single line in the whole model.

            P.S why is it that in this program you have to go around in circles to get to a simple POA?
            I have used 3d max and vectorworks 3d but sketchup is sush a pain!

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
              last edited by

              No. I meant to go back to the Styles dialog > In model > Edit tab > Edge settings.

              You can either have ALL edges coloured by the same colour (in this case black - but you can change that) OR by material (or by axis but you don't wnt that now).

              So if you need different colours, you have to paint your edges so and at the same time use that setting.

              Gai...

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              • J Offline
                JOEJOEJOE
                last edited by

                @gaieus said:

                No. I meant to go back to the Styles dialog > In model > Edit tab > Edge settings.

                You can either have ALL edges coloured by the same colour (in this case black - but you can change that) OR by material (or by axis but you don't wnt that now).

                So if you need different colours, you have to paint your edges so and at the same time use that setting.

                ive just done that .....i have selected the seams which needed to be grey and then "Color by material" was selected. However as i did this the seams did turn grey but other parts in my model turned grey also when the should have stayed black!!!!!

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
                  last edited by

                  This method indeed has the drawback that you need to paint every edge with a colour/material (it will also display as a colour) individually - or at least select a bunch of them and apply the colour.

                  Gai...

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                  • J Offline
                    JOEJOEJOE
                    last edited by

                    Thanks for the help but This program is shit.

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
                      last edited by

                      Quite rash opinion based on your unexperiences with it...

                      Gai...

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                      • J Offline
                        JOEJOEJOE
                        last edited by

                        well simple things such as changing the colour of a line should be blindingly obviuos but it isnt. you have to go to here, then there, then click on another option just to do basic commands. And even then the problem isnt solved completely. I have been told that this program was the easiest of all 3d programns to pick up yet i disagree. Ive used 4 other 3d programs and they are by FAR easier! My judgement comes from the picking up the program and using it for a month......so i dont think my statement was rash.

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
                          last edited by

                          Look, there are altogether two things here:

                          1. setting it up to display edges by material/colour

                          2. applying a colour to the edges.

                          What is so difficult in this? How would you expect SU to automatically know what colour you wish the edges to diplay?

                          Gai...

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                          • J Offline
                            JOEJOEJOE
                            last edited by

                            1. All of the lines in the whole model change colour, (which i have stated before)

                            2. the colour does not change if i select the lines and change the colour. they are components and if i change the colour of one line they should all change BUT they do not.

                            I do not expect SU to mind read. Im telling you your methods do not work.

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                            • GaieusG Offline
                              Gaieus
                              last edited by

                              Okay, if they are components, even better.
                              So you are set now to display the edges by material, right?

                              1. Now double click on your component the colour of whose lines you want to change
                              2. go to wireframe mode (this will hide faces so they won't be affected)
                              3. select all the lines with a simple selection box - make sure they are all seleted
                              4. use the Paint bucket tool to colour them as you want.
                              5. Now you can go back to shaded (with colours or with textures) mode to check out the result.
                              6. Apply this technique to all your components or whatever you want to paint.
                                Note that if you paint a component from outside its editing context, everything (front and back faces as well as edges) will be painted that colour.

                              Once you have applied any colour/material to a face/edge inside the editing context of a component however, it will retain that colur/material whenever you change it from outside.

                              This is the basis of a simple trick also described in the SU Guide (scroll the very bottom of this page) where you paint the windshields/windows and the tyres of a car from inside the editing context of a component like this:

                              http://download.sketchup.com/sketchuphelp/gsu6_win/Content/Z-images/G-Entities/ent-ComponentMatOverride1.png

                              And later on you paint the cars with different colours from outside like this - notice that the windows and the tyres don't change colour:

                              http://download.sketchup.com/sketchuphelp/gsu6_win/Content/Z-images/G-Entities/ent-ComponentMatOverride2.png

                              Now apparently first you painted your component from outside - thus you are unable to paint the edges with a different colour from the faces. You will need to edit that component (double click on it).

                              I hope this helps.

                              Gai...

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                              • J Offline
                                JOEJOEJOE
                                last edited by

                                I have been trying that for some time. The problem is that when i switch from "color all same" to "color by material" the edges also change!

                                image 1 color all same

                                SKETCHUP OUTINE HELP.jpg

                                image 2 color by material

                                SKETCHUP OUTINE HELP 2.jpg

                                the edges change to the same colour rather than staying black. All i want to change is the lines on the roof. That is all.

                                Do you understand now?

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                                • GaieusG Offline
                                  Gaieus
                                  last edited by

                                  Yes, they change because they are painted grey as well as the roof itself. If you use this kind of setting (colour by material), it will be applied globally in your model and you will have to adjust the colour of every edge you have painted differently before.

                                  If that roof is a group/component, do the same to its edges as I described above.

                                  No wonder people do not use this setting too much - it is easy to screw things up if you are not careful enough - and keeping to repaint everything is quite cumbersome.

                                  BTW why are you not happy with all edges the same colour?

                                  Gai...

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                                  • Alan FraserA Offline
                                    Alan Fraser
                                    last edited by

                                    In my experience, it's extremely difficult in many other 3D programs...Max, Lightwave, Rhino, C4D etc...to get edges to display at all...much less individually, in the colour of your choice.

                                    It seems to me that by far the easiest solution to this would be to simply make a png file in light grey...say 16 pixels square...then draw a single column of darker pixels along one edge, save it and paint the roofs with it. It took me less time to make the model than write this description.


                                    roof_thumb.jpg

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                                    • GaieusG Offline
                                      Gaieus
                                      last edited by

                                      Ah yes, texturing is another - and even easier - solution. 👍

                                      Gai...

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                                      • J Offline
                                        JOEJOEJOE
                                        last edited by

                                        Making a png file would mean i would have to redraw the roof and several others to fit my scheme.

                                        "you will have to adjust the colour of every edge you have painted differently before" - Gaieus

                                        "If that roof is a group/component, do the same to its edges as I described above." - Gaeius

                                        this is not possible for me to do so, as u explained above, i have said this before. This is THE PROBLEM!!!

                                        This does not seem to be getting anywhere.

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                                        • J Offline
                                          JOEJOEJOE
                                          last edited by

                                          OK guys, do you know how to make the edges thinner on my drawing. On edge style all i have selected is display edges....can i thin down the edges any further???

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                                          • AnssiA Offline
                                            Anssi
                                            last edited by

                                            @joejoejoe said:

                                            OK guys, do you know how to make the edges thinner on my drawing. On edge style all i have selected is display edges....can i thin down the edges any further???

                                            The thickness of edges on screen can not be adjusted, they are always 1 pixel wide. Only profile edge and section cut widths can be adjusted. Edges can, however, be easily made thinner in exported images. Just export a larger image, the edges will always be 1 pixel wide and thus proportionally thinner. You can then downsize the image in your photo editor.

                                            Anssi

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