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      bellwells
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      @ehaflett said:

      ...I'm voting the issues and voting my conscience and that feels good to me. It's nice because I don't have to watch the news or tap into the 24-hour news/spin cycle because they never talk about 3rd parties, and I don't have to watch the debates. It's pretty nice, I recommend it.

      Thanks Eric, I needed this to further validate my voting for Bob Barr. I had suggested I might change my vote to McCain if I got mad enough at the liberal media. Thanks for bringing me back from the edge...

      Ron

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        bellwells
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        @unknownuser said:

        Has Obama ever commented on Echelon?

        What's Eschelon? I googled it and found some references to the wire tap portion of the Patriot Act. Is this what your referring to?

        Ron

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          Stinkie
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          An electronic world-wide data interception network. The UK participates in it as well, if I'm not wrong.

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            david.
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            Someone must have something to hide. And, we know who you are...

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              david_h
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              I'm part of it. I am watching you right now. 😆

              Put your pants back on! EEWWW!

              If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                watkins
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                Echelon:

                Link Preview Image
                ECHELON - Wikipedia

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                (en.wikipedia.org)

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                  tomsdesk
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                  Hey, I think I finally found that "liberal press" some of you guys have been talking about. What a HOOT! Thanks for the heads up!

                  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#27330537

                  http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
                  2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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                    solo
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                    Rachel Maddow, shes a tough one. I must admit she is way left of even the liberal media ... kinda like Hannity's opposite.

                    http://www.solos-art.com

                    If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                      bellwells
                      last edited by

                      @tomsdesk said:

                      Hey, I think I finally found that "liberal press" some of you guys have been talking about. What a HOOT! Thanks for the heads up!

                      http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#27330537

                      If you don't see the liberal media bias, you've got your head in the punch bowl. Of course, I wouldn't expect a lefty like you to see it. At least I admit that Rush and Hannity are right wing.

                      Do you see anyone in the main stream media who is left wing? If so, who?

                      Ron

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                        ehaflett
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                        @bellwells said:

                        @ehaflett said:

                        ...I'm voting the issues and voting my conscience and that feels good to me. It's nice because I don't have to watch the news or tap into the 24-hour news/spin cycle because they never talk about 3rd parties, and I don't have to watch the debates. It's pretty nice, I recommend it.

                        Thanks Eric, I needed this to further validate my voting for Bob Barr. I had suggested I might change my vote to McCain if I got mad enough at the liberal media. Thanks for bringing me back from the edge...

                        GREAT, glad I could help. Anyone else? Anyone?

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                          artwhore
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                          All of you guys spouting party lines are, at best, naive. I dont see how anybody can reach the age of 30, and still take either of the 2 major parties seriously.
                          I'd vote 3rd party in a heartbeat. We just need one without a looney at the wheel.
                          We need someone who is strong, yet sensitive to our needs.....someone like....TED NUGENT 👿 😆 😆 😆

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                            tomsdesk
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                            @solo said:

                            Rachel Maddow, shes a tough one. I must admit she is way left of even the liberal media ... kinda like Hannity's opposite.

                            Yeah, but at least her rantings are based in fact rather than conjecture. Nonetheless, I don't consider MSNBC TV or Fox News "the press" or "news media"...it's commentary at best and therefore inherently biased.

                            http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
                            2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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                              bellwells
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                              For a guy who doesn't consider MSNBC to be "the press" or "news media" you sure quote them alot. LOL.

                              Ron

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                                tomsdesk
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                                @tomsdesk said:

                                ...MSNBC TV...

                                http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
                                2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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                                  solo
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                                  OOOOOH! SLAM.

                                  [flash=425,344:35qzuh0y]http://www.youtube.com/v/5eUz13-pmTY&eurl=http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/10/29/obama-rips-sarah-palin-in-new-campaign-ad/[/flash:35qzuh0y]

                                  The first AD aimed at McCain using Palin .... double SLAM.

                                  http://www.solos-art.com

                                  If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                    chango70
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                                    🤣 yeah, slam and dunk!

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                                      bellwells
                                      last edited by

                                      Good ad...effective and clever.

                                      Ron

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                                        chango70
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                                        I Seriously can't read website that can't afford a decent web designer. OMG it hurts my eyes.

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                                          Stinkie
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                                          From usawakeup.org

                                          "Did you know that Mohamed Atta, the 9/11 ring leader, had a valid Florida driver’s license? Did you know 13 of the 19 hijackers had obtained valid driver’s licenses? Armed with these licenses, eight of the hijackers even registered to vote! Here is the shocking fact: Barack Hussein Obama strongly supports giving illegal aliens in America driver’s licenses."

                                          Very nice link, Baker. 🤢 If it were up to me, your *ass would be banned this instant.

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                                            Alan Fraser
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                                            That blog is a load of scaremongering BS. I didn't bother reading past the first page. Europe a goner?...ridiculous. Muslims represent about 2.8% of the UK population...hardly surprising given the Imperial past. That hardly amounts to a takeover. That compares with 1.5% in the US (over three times as many in actual numbers).
                                            As for waking up to the call of the muezzin every morning; Edinburgh has the largest mosque in the UK. My son lived round the corner from it for 8 years and never heard a thing...it would probably breach the noise abatement laws for one thing.

                                            Typical US neonazi "We're the last bastion of freedom, democracy and white christianity" cr@p, spread by people that have never been outside their own borders.

                                            I notice that the post advised us to follow the links to Obama's Islamic supporters...not Islamic extremist supporters, you'll note. Since when has being a Muslim been a crime in the US?...and are all US citizens who happen to be Muslim now second class citizens...unsuited for executive office? Seems more than a tad racist, not to say fascist, to me.

                                            It's also worth remembering that this is not a US white-supremacist forum, it's an International one based in that most liberal of those pinko European countries, the Netherlands. Quite a few members here might well be Muslim themselves and find such sentiments totally repugnant.

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                                            You could be entitled to compensation. Call the Pro Claimers now!

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