Large Hadron Collider

remus · 16 Sept 2008, 05:53

Is that the election or the LHC juan?

JuanV.Soler · 16 Sept 2008, 06:00

I did not know McCain/Palin were involved in the LHC
they may have a chance then , dammit

remus · 16 Sept 2008, 06:01

Theye not, it was meant to be a joke kind of lost effect now

JuanV.Soler · 16 Sept 2008, 06:28

oh Remus, i was teasing you. nevermind.
Now, again, is there any news about the experiment ?

remus · 16 Sept 2008, 09:16

http://press.web.cern.ch/press/

JuanV.Soler · 16 Sept 2008, 09:25

thanks Remus.
It seems it is calm. No news yet.

john.warburton · 17 Sept 2008, 11:45

@marian said:

What a bunch of crap, everyone knows that the end of the world will come in 2012 when the Earth will run out of Mayan dates, i'm soooo scared....
Boy..people are dumb..

Actually, I hear that the real experiments won't start until October.

And, some scientists are saying that it will be four years (2012) before the catastrophic effects are felt.

....I too am really, really scared.

MALAISE · 19 Sept 2008, 18:59

Don't be too afraid

Like very highly complex devices, the LHC is yet out of order for technical reasons
just after it has been switched on

MALAISE

JuanV.Soler · 19 Sept 2008, 19:02

is it confirmed ?

Alan Fraser · 20 Sept 2008, 13:33

BBC News - Hadron Collider halted for months

The Large Hadron Collider near Geneva will be out of action for at least two months because of a technical fault.

(news.bbc.co.uk)

JuanV.Soler · 20 Sept 2008, 13:43

thanks Alan
it is hard for me to get the latest news.
It is not for joking but if the magnets have heated so much unexpectlly, I cant see any other way but to remove them for full garanty and that , I´m afraid is going to be impossible to do unless they reconstruct the wheel again.
Hard Luck.

Marian · 20 Sept 2008, 16:08

If failures like this happpen so frequently on complex machines i wonder how many problems will rise when we'll make the first real starship...guess 10 years will stay on Earth and another ten in orbit.

linea · 21 Sept 2008, 06:11

@unknownuser said:

the CERN institute where the LHC is being built invented the World Wide Web, as a fastest method for sharing information with its scientists from around the world, working on LHC components. You are talking here thanks to the LHC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dare anyone to say that the web is useless.

For another example breast cancer sensors came directly from particle collision research in the CERN
How anyone can anyone think that nothing good will come of quantum physics research?!

Sorry to split hairs but Cern did not "invent" the world wide web. Many years ago I researched this subject for part of my university dissertation (addmittedly not the best essay) but I'm sure that Arpanet developed by the U.S. Department of Defense was the original form of the world wide web, or at least the first large scale internet medium that actually worked. Cern might have developed it but they didn't invent it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET
http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~acc/docs/arpa.html
http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa091598.htm
http://www.livinginternet.com/i/ii_arpanet.htm

Alan Fraser · 21 Sept 2008, 07:21

Jon, ARPANET invented the Internet for the US Defense Department. That is the packet switching via addresses contained in those packets of data to link computers together.
This is different from the WWW, which is a hypertext protocol, accessed via a web browser, that sits on top of the Internet. That was invented at CERN to allow widely separated scientists to communicate effectively.
The Internet and the Web are not interchangeable terms.

linea · 21 Sept 2008, 07:45

Ok Alan, I stand corrected.

john.warburton · 20 Nov 2009, 08:18

The Large Hadron Collider has been fixed and is about to be restarted:

BBC News - Beam circles 'Big Bang' machine

Engineers have sent proton particles all the way round the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) machine for the first time in more than a year.

(news.bbc.co.uk)

Dave R · 20 Nov 2009, 11:36

What about the bread?

john.warburton · 20 Nov 2009, 11:47

@dave r said:

What about the bread?

Give me a dollar for every time someone mentions that ....

Jean Lemire · 20 Nov 2009, 14:19

Hi folks.

These peoples may have read the book mentionned here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_(novel

I read it and found it very good but, this is science fiction.

I know that sometimes fiction becomes reality and even surpasses it but this time I doubt it.

Just ideas.

ely862me · 20 Nov 2009, 15:19

@unknownuser said:

Oooooh oooohh ooohh!! Look what I found, webcam footage!

Tasty thread!!!
Don t worry guys!Nothing bad can happen ! Remember first time wheel was probably square ,then rounded but still uncomfortable, then we discovered the tire and we re still polishing it.
Every invention takes time until the effects can reach maximum potential.Who knows what can be discovered from here,maybe something totally different from what they expected .
Till then leave in peace because at least this is up to you !!

Elisei