New Member introduction with questions
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Ah, Remus, I fell fast asleep after my doc appt., and slept for many hours. Amazing what a little trip out of the house can take out of ya!
I want to thank you, too, for your amazingly explicit responses! I love the "good face" / "bad face" concept -- laughed myself silly. I'll always think of them that way, now.
As for your answer to No. 2, do not fret. I understood perfectly what you meant. The only question it brings up is, how the heck does it happen when the two faces are NOT coplanar -- if everything you've done to make them coplanar seems to have been for naught?
For example, I was trying to make a bit of molding to hold the glass pane of a window. My walls were certainly parallel, since I was able to push trough my window opening without a hitch. Then I pulled out a 2-1/2" wide, 1" deep external trim molding all around them, no problem. Was able to erase all the little lines, so evidently, everything was still coplanar. Then I dragged 2-1/2" guidelines from the edge of that molding, all around the inside of the window opening, and then another guideline 2" from the first one. I make long, 2" wide rectangles along the sill, the sides, and the top, and extrude them one inch. This is to be my glass molding. But now, when I go to erase the last little line connecting those molding 'boxes,' a face disappears. I have done everything right, carefully, and yet it happens. So what's going on? What makes the faces not be coplanar when you do everything to make them so?
And for No. 3 & 4 -- How can I discover what the "other" closed loop is? The one I don't want to be closing?
The additional question do not constitute a lack on your part to have answered my questions. You did so, exceptionally. Therefore, in gratitude for your valiant services without regard to personal safety, I knight thee "Sir Remus of the entire U.K. (because you didn't disclose your village -- so you luck out!), and the SketchUp world as a whole." Wear your armor (or "armour" -- haha!) well, and with pride.
Thanks, Remus,
Gigi
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Hi Gigi,
To make sure you are drawing coplanar edges, the "Colour by axis" setting in the Styles dialogue may be ome help. Open it from the Window menu then go to "My model" (the little house icon) > Edit tab > Edge settings. There, at the bottom, there is a pulldown menu:
Just an ide about one edge deining two faces, here is a rnshot: on the right, I'm just drawing a line (marke with green as it is on the green axis) which will "finish" to close the loops of two different faces as shown on the left:
Sometimes one of these faces is unwanted but there is no way SU can know it beforehand so you may need to kep deleting these unwanted faces. -
I'll add a quick thanks for making the UCP the User Control Panel. Now its easier to find, even when I knew where it was..
Chris
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I would just like to say Hi
And reasure you that there are no stupid questions on this forum.
I am the king of dumb questions here.
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Hello, friends,
I just wrote a long post thanking each of you specifically, with examples of how I've put your help into action, etc., and when I went to post it, I was asked to sign in again -- and when the "Review" page opened, the form was blank. I lost everything I wrote.
I've been meaning to ask about this signing in businees, anyway. Often I'm asked to sign in three and four times in a row -- even when at the outset, my username is at the top, giving me reason to believe I'm already signed in. Is there a bug in this program? Even after I sign in two times, I find I'm not really signed in. Am I doing something that kicked me off?
I'm sorry that I'm not repeating all the nice things I said, but my time is limited. I also have another question already, but that should go into a new post.
Thanks for all your help,
Gigi -
Catwoman,
I've been having that problem with this site. I know how depressing it is to lose your post, and you wonder if you want to do it over. I began to copy a post before submitting if I had written a long one. Then I finally set Firefox to save cookies from SU forums. Are you being logged on automatically? I think that helped me stop getting bounced off.
Peter
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Hi Gigi, hi Peter,
I'm sorry to her that you also hav this issue. I have never had it but there are some people also experiencing it, see in this topic:
http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=9696&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a#p61223Unfortunately we have never been able to precisely identify the cause.
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Hi Gigi -- that re-sign-in & blanked out form thing happens to me often but not everytime. I've composed hundreds of thoughtful posts only to have them vanish. As a slow typist I just give up, or grab a beer and try again. Eventually (slow learner) I've learned to copy to the clipboard before hitting the submit button. That way if I have to re-log-in I can just paste the posting back in and submit again. It almost always works the second time.
Regards, Ross
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Yes, Peter, it's very depressing to lose all one has written. I often just don't have the heart to try to reconstruct everything I said, even though it short-changes the people I'm writing to. Thanks for understanding, and your advice.
That's a very interesting discussion string you linked, Gaieus. It's definitely not just a South African problem, since I've been having it so much. However, I took the advice of a few people to clear my temp. internet files and cookies and such, and at least this far (it's only been a couple of minutes), I haven't been kicked out again. And I will also copy this, so that in case I'm in front of another empty form when I try to post, I will be able to paste it back in. Hope I remember to do that, always.
Gigi
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Hello, Ross -- looks like you posted while I was writing the previous item. And as you can see, I had arrived at that same logical conclusion for a fix that you suggest -- to 'copy' before sending. My fear is that I won't remember to do it, since I'm programmed to hit any kind of "SEND" button immediately after signing my name. Will take some reprogramming.
And, incidentally, I was going to do the same with this post, so I highlighted all, and then accidentally hit Ctrl + V, rather than C, and so I pasted my previous post here, and the first one I'd written vanished for good. So I guess unless one is perfect and never makes mistakes, this isn't a fool-proof method, either.
Thanks for your sympathy, and for chiming in!
Gigi
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@unknownuser said:
and then accidentally hit Ctrl + V, rather than C, and so I pasted my previous post here, and the first one I'd written vanished for good.
In this case I just hit Ctrl+Z (Undo) - it works in Firefox at least.
Actuall, there are a couple of place where I have (had) this problem, too, and I'm already used to hit a bunch of hot keys - like in this case Ctrl+A (select all) then Ctrl+C (copy) kind of automatically.
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Yeah, Gai, I had done a Ctrl-A and then thought I was hitting Ctrl-V instead of the Ctrl-C I meant to hit. Just a dumb accident. I haven't tried doing Ctrl-Z to see if I can back out of it, but if it happens again, I'll sure give it a try! Thanks!
Gigi
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