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    • boofredlayB Offline
      boofredlay
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      @anssi said:

      They are idiots.

      😆 No, seriously. Tell us how you really feel 😆

      I think that when they fire it up they will find Waldo.

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        Alan Fraser
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          remus
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          It'll be interesting to see what eventually becomes of it, although i can quite easily imagine it throwing up something completely unexpected, as that seems to be whats happened every other time a new 'largest particle collider ever' has been made.

          Stephy H (steven hawking, for those less well acquainted), seems pretty confident its going to do something interesting though, and im sure he knows a lot more about it than me, so who knows. We'll just have to wait and see.

          p.s. the whole 'black hole going to wipe out the earth' thing is b.s. 👍

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            toxicvoxel
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            There is something wrong in this world when we spend billions on finding answers to problems that don't exist when real issues go unattended.

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              remus
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              I think that is rather short sighted toxic. Whatever it does tell us is going to be very interesting, and one way or another we're going to learn a lot from it.

              And as for 'real issues', i dont think you can get much more real than understanding how the universe around us works.

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                pilou
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                yeah yeah, Tchernobyl was also very safety! 😒

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                  toxicvoxel
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                  Remus,
                  You can take that position from the comfort of your personal circumstances.

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                    geh4evr
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                    Alan, I'd never thought I'd hear myself say that something on YouTube which doesn't have to do with SketchUp is actually good. 😉

                    I wonder if any suicides will come out of this, It happened with Y2K, and I wouldn't be surprised if it happened with LHC.

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                      chango70
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                      The problem of the world isn't going to be solved by pouring money that would have otherwise gone to the Collider. Thats very naive Toxic. Pouring money often made things worse.

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                      • MarianM Offline
                        Marian
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                        If we would have spent resources only on "real issues" we woulld stil be in the dark ages. All important discoveries contributed to both technology and society. We can't just put on hold technological development and work on social issues only, if we do that we we'll never resolve anything, people always have problems.
                        And chango is right that money wouldn't have made any difference on an world scale.

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                          Ross Macintosh
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                          If you gave me the €6.4 billion to spend I'm sure I could have done some lasting good...

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                            toxicvoxel
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                            Chango,Marian
                            It is simmilar justification that gave us the first atomic bomb.
                            If you think that this experiment will explain 'how the universe works', you are decieving yourselves.

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                              solo
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                              @unknownuser said:

                              It is simmilar justification that gave us the first atomic bomb.

                              lets not forget nuclear power.

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                              • Alan FraserA Offline
                                Alan Fraser
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                                The money isn't an either/or thing. The US public made the same complaint about NASA's budget at the height of the space race ...yet they were spending more than that on dog food.

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                                  kwistenbiebel
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                                  I wonder what the real motivation is behind trying to stop these particle experiments.
                                  Let's call the Chuck Norris help line.

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                                    Ross Macintosh
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                                    Chuck Norris doesn't need a particle accelerator. He is a particle accelerator!

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                                      remus
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                                      @toxicvoxel said:

                                      Remus,
                                      You can take that position from the comfort of your personal circumstances.

                                      I'd like to think i would hold the same beliefs even if i lived in a less privileged society.

                                      And just to throw some numbers out there, the LHC cost approx £5.14 billion, the NHS spends about £7 billion a year on medication and african debt is roughly £100 billion. As im sure you can see, if the LHC money was diverted to something more 'real' it would have very little lasting effect, compared to the huge advances possibe in our understanding with the LHC. Seems like a bit of a bargain really.

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                                        remus
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                                        Oh, and chuck norris can just squeeze his fist closed really tightly, then sniff the results to look for higgs particles (and save the 5.14 billion quid for beer.)

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                                          toxicvoxel
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                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          Seems like a bit of a bargain really

                                          Remus,
                                          I am very interested to know what the 'possible huge advances' are that you are talking about.
                                          I challenge you explain in to us in technical detail what these benefits could be, seeing that you have quantified the yield of these in terms of the investment.

                                          Go on, convince me that you understand the underlying scientific issues that you so confidently support.

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                                            watkins
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                                            In respect of investment and return, one should not forget that the World Wide Web started at CERN.

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                                            Collecting good minds together around a big project always yields long term results. This Forum is a good example.

                                            The billions spent have gone into salaries, commerce, development, education and training, and not least of all the design and implementation of better and more efficient superconducting magnets. The spin-off of such developments could be huge for the power generation and distribution industries who cannot or won't invest in the necessary R&D.

                                            Someone mentioned dog food? I think the UK alone spends over 1 billion a year on their pets. Personally, I would prefer to see that money going towards conserving endangered species, but that's not going to happen, is it. Three billion (?) on a new collider sounds good to me.

                                            Regards,
                                            Bob

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